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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2014, 09:13:37 AM »
I wholeheartedly agree with Aylin.
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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2014, 11:49:56 AM »
Why wouldn't you play with a overpowered mage??? If he was crippled that would be okay? This makes no sense

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2014, 12:00:08 PM »
Why wouldn't you play with a overpowered mage??? If he was crippled that would be okay? This makes no sense

Where is the fun in an easy victory?

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2014, 12:06:33 PM »
Where is the fun in a difficult failure? Have you ever played and lost horribly??? Like an air wizard with walls of thorns on turn 3

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2014, 01:00:13 PM »
Why wouldn't you play with a overpowered mage??? If he was crippled that would be okay? This makes no sense

I play for the challenge. What challenge is there if I go in using the most powerful mage?

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2014, 01:01:07 PM »
Then you play the warlord a lot huh...

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2014, 01:09:29 PM »
Then you play the warlord a lot huh...

I actually play the J. Beastmaster more than the Warlord.

At the moment the Warlord is so bad there's no way to be competitive with that mage at all. Once FiF comes out I will reevaluate the strength of the Warlord(s), which might lead to me playing them more often.

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2014, 01:45:59 PM »
I agree with Aylin, as well. There's a sweet spot of difficulty where you can win if you play well, but you're not going in with an advantage (or with a huge disadvantage) based on your build. For me, that's the spot where the game is the most fun.

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2014, 02:00:34 PM »
If I wanted easy victories then I wouldn't have bought into a whole new game. I'd much rather have a hard fought and enjoyable match I lose then some cheap win where I just trounce my opponent. Winning is awesome but you learn more from loss. Losing forces you to look at what you did wrong and get better. If I win I want it to be against an actual challenge, otherwise why play?
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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2014, 03:02:10 PM »
Back on topic, it's a simple answer as to why his training is the way it is. Because that's how the priestess is trained. I believe the main idea behind alternate mages is for them to be able to use identical spell books (not that that may be optimal for them). Being trained differently would prevent this.

However, thematically I could see him having training in fire and possibly even being weak in nature. I don't feel such is necessary though, and his current training can be explained thematically with minimal difficulty.

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2014, 04:45:05 PM »
You can fill dozens of forum pages arguing about playing to win vs. playing for fun...it all depends on why you're playing. If you're going to a tournament to try and win it, you should probably play a Wizard build. If you're in a casual game on OCTGN, you can play whatever you like.

No need for the Priest to be trained in Fire imo. Searing things with light and holy fire is a well-established trope.

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2014, 03:33:47 PM »
If I wanted easy victories then I wouldn't have bought into a whole new game. I'd much rather have a hard fought and enjoyable match I lose then some cheap win where I just trounce my opponent. Winning is awesome but you learn more from loss. Losing forces you to look at what you did wrong and get better. If I win I want it to be against an actual challenge, otherwise why play?

In playesting (even tourney playtesting) I can agree with this but when it comes to tourney matches when getting the W is the goal I do not care if the other player even puts up a fight.

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Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
Because so far all the alt mage mirror the original mages
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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2014, 04:13:36 PM »
True enough, which is why everyone (reportedly, I haven't seen myself) plays wizards at tournaments, but in casual play you get everything (besides maybe warlords). While I'd like to see the wizard's dominance broken, I'm satisfied with the way the game is currently meeting the needs of different types of players.

Also back on topic:
I like to imagine the priest shooting holy laser beams.

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2014, 04:15:52 PM »
I think of him wielding a light saber >_>

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Re: Why isn't the Malakai Priest trained in Fire?
« Reply #29 on: February 01, 2014, 02:26:06 AM »
If you wanna play a Jedi/Sith see the Force Master :)
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