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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2018, 12:37:48 PM »
A Priestess Spellbook
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Total cost: 120 pts

--- Equipment ---
1 Crown of Protection
1 Dawnbreaker Ring
1 Eagleclaw Boots
1 Elemental Cloak
1 Enchanter's Ring
1 Gloves of Skill
1 Helm of Justice
1 Leather Boots
1 Leather Chausses
1 Leather Gloves
1 Mage Wand
2 Radiant Breastplate
2 Resplendent Bow
1 Ring of Asyra

--- Conjuration ---
2 Consecrated Ground
1 Hand of Bim-Shalla
1 Pillar of Righteous Flame
2 Tanglevine
1 Temple of Meraveran

--- Creature ---
1 Cassiel, Shield of Bim-Shalla
4 Guardian Angel
1 Royal Armorer
1 Selesius, the East Wind

--- Enchantment ---
1 Armor Ward
2 Bear Strength
1 Brace Yourself
1 Demonic Bloodlust
3 Divine Reversal
1 Enchantment Transfusion
2 Eye for an Eye
2 Galvanize
2 Healing Charm
1 Healing Madrigal
1 Life Link
1 Mind Shield
2 Nullify
1 Regrowth

--- Incantation ---
1 Crumble
2 Dispel
2 Dissolve
1 Focused Strike
1 Force Push
1 Heal
1 Mending Wave
2 Minor Heal
1 Remove Curse
1 Teleport

--- Attack ---
1 Acid Ball
4 Luminous Blast
1 Surging Wave

This book is complex I like the Armorer and Crown idea.

3 Armor / Aegis 1 Creatures that self heal is pretty nice.

I'm worried about actions though to get everything done.

So lets start with Items I think that can be removed.  SBP Saved
-1 Helm of Justice / You can only wear 1 helm
-2 Gloves of Skill / You only have 4 ranged attacks now
-2 Resplendent Bow x2 / Just a bad item
-5 Selesius, the East Wind / There are better 5 SBP creatures
-3 Demonic Bloodlust / WHY!?
-3 Divine Reversal / I do not like these enchantments that is preference though
-2 Galvanize / Your a priestess remove any conditions you want
-1 Dawnbreaker Ring / You can only wear 2 rings

*-2 Focused Strike I like Focused Strike, but I think 2 Piercing Strikes or 1 Piercing & 1 Perfect Strike might do you more justice against high armor targets.  This could stay as it is though.

That is 19 points saved

19 to go...
Get 2 more Bear Strengths run 4 of that is your goal
+4 SBP

15 to go...
+5 SBP is a big investment if your running a game changer and Holy has them.
Alandell, the Blue Knight.
Samandriel 5 Dice + 1 vs Non-living or dark creatures and a chance to stun.

10 to go...
a second regrowth isn't a terrible idea

8 to go...
2 pacify

6 to go...
You need a weapon so pick any wpn we'll assume 2 SBP

4 to go...
Divine Intervention and Purify or Resurrection

You might have issues with high armor targets in this build since there is really no piercing since you have no knights courage.

Final Book
A Priestess Spellbook
built by http://www.spellbookbuilder.com

Total cost: 120 pts

--- Equipment ---
1 Crown of Protection
1 Eagleclaw Boots
1 Elemental Cloak
1 Enchanter's Ring
1 Leather Boots
1 Leather Chausses
1 Leather Gloves
1 Mage Wand
2 Radiant Breastplate
1 Ring of Asyra
1 Staff of Asyra

--- Conjuration ---
2 Consecrated Ground
1 Hand of Bim-Shalla
1 Pillar of Righteous Flame
2 Tanglevine
1 Temple of Meraveran

--- Creature ---
1 Cassiel, Shield of Bim-Shalla
4 Guardian Angel
1 Royal Armorer
1 Samandriel, Angel of Light

--- Enchantment ---
1 Armor Ward
4 Bear Strength
1 Brace Yourself
1 Divine Intervention
1 Enchantment Transfusion
2 Eye for an Eye
2 Healing Charm
1 Healing Madrigal
1 Life Link
1 Mind Shield
2 Nullify
2 Pacify
2 Regrowth


--- Incantation ---
1 Crumble
2 Dispel
2 Dissolve
1 Focused Strike
1 Force Push
1 Heal
1 Mending Wave
2 Minor Heal
1 Purify
1 Remove Curse
1 Teleport

--- Attack ---
1 Acid Ball
4 Luminous Blast
1 Surging Wave



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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2018, 02:38:39 PM »
I think that you are going to get stomped into the ground as it stands because you do not have enough creatures for your offense.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2018, 03:35:09 PM »
So did you put Alandell in, or did you choose Samandriel over Alandell?
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2018, 06:22:06 PM »
Neither, they are too overpriced.  I would choose Grey Angels and Dawnbreaker's Messengers.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2018, 06:46:48 PM »
Neither, they are too overpriced.  I would choose Grey Angels and Dawnbreaker's Messengers.
What makes you say Allandel is overpriced? I do think he costs a bit much in some builds, but I wouldn't say overpriced.
I agree on the big angels.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2018, 05:24:40 PM by Reddicediaries »
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2018, 10:43:40 PM »
I'll pay 5 for Allandel all day.

The angel is iffy cause of such the high mana cost.  7 Dice flying with a daze / stun is interesting though.   All of these creatures flying is a nice feature I'm not sure how it would work out honestly I really like GA's.  I left the Angel in just for flavor I'd have gone with Allendal myself. and 5 armor with 15 HP.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2018, 10:46:35 PM »
Yeah I agree with ya. I think Alandell is the solid choice here.
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2018, 12:30:33 AM »
You do not have enough healing to bring Alandell online without sacrificing too much of the healing for your mage.  If you had 4 Heals and 4-6 Minor Heals, you might be able to get away with it, but your opponent will kill Alandell long before he becomes a threat.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2018, 12:45:09 AM »
You do not have enough healing to bring Alandell online without sacrificing too much of the healing for your mage.  If you had 4 Heals and 4-6 Minor Heals, you might be able to get away with it, but your opponent will kill Alandell long before he becomes a threat.
Care to describe the methods of said killing?
Just put lifelink on him and he should survive to get at least one attack in.
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2018, 12:57:45 AM »
4 heals and 6 minor heals is an insane over commitment. Not only is heal your full channel in one round, but it's not seem feasible to play both in obe round on base channel. Not even on massively increased channel. The only one who should do anything close to this is a resto pally that is counting on healing for gaining his valor. And even that is a stretch. One mage wand offsets the need for 2 copies of a spell. Plus even In school that's 14 sp you're not using for anything else. Not the best idea
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2018, 06:58:05 AM »
Okay this is an attrition setup the way this book is designed.

The way it should work out is your opponent has a choice of what to do with his dispels.

Lets say an average person runs 2 to 3.  Well that is still not going to remove all your Bear Strength then there are the rest of the enchants to deal with.  Healing wise GA heal themselves and have a 8+ dodge along with Aegis 1 to not be hit anyways.  Now you make that 3 Armor GA with self heal and Bear Strength not including other outside healing and they become an issue real fast.  Most things that can attack flying are Squishy so 3 dice or 5 dice is ALOT against them.

This is a bare build working off someone else idea.  I can see some things I would do different, but over all the theory is pretty sound with an entire army flying.

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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2018, 07:03:53 AM »
Until I saw this book I never though of using the Crown with Armorer so there is a nice take away from this Book Idea regardless of how you view the concept I like it personally.

It just needs playtesting.

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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2018, 07:37:27 AM »
Why bother worrying about the dispels?  My priority is dissolving your Mage Wand and just swarming your Mage because you do not have enough creatures for me to worry about.  If I am playing a Necromancer, I bring out twelve zombies by turn eight and just eat away your six creatures in a few turns.  If I am playing a Beastmaster, I bring out a couple of Grizzlies with unavoidable and eat your Angels.  I am playing a Forcemaster, I charm or sleep every creature and kill your mage one on one.  Without more creatures spells, the spellbook is fragile and lacks resilience and force.
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2018, 08:11:23 AM »
Are you trolling Obsidian?
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Re: Angels of Harlem, any feed back welcome plz
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2018, 11:38:52 AM »
Are... are you for real dude? 12 zombies by round 8? What has your opponent been doing all that time? If you've dissolved a mage wand your right in his face. You'd be dead by round 8 of that's all you were spending your mana on.
Hard opinions are nice to have and all but sharing them in this kinda fashion comes off a little... mean bro.
We're a community here bud. Try and remember that were all here to have fun and be better players yeah?
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