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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2017, 03:24:48 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2017, 04:15:51 PM »
Omg symbiotic orb. If not for only being able to use it once per round it would definitely be OP. Omg it is so good.

Also would like to note that this is not the first academy Mage with different training than their Arena counterpart. Priestess and Warlock pay triple for dark and holy spells respectively even if novice in academy. In Arena they never pay triple for novice spells.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2017, 06:22:03 PM »
Omg symbiotic orb. If not for only being able to use it once per round it would definitely be OP. Omg it is so good.

Also would like to note that this is not the first academy Mage with different training than their Arena counterpart. Priestess and Warlock pay triple for dark and holy spells respectively even if novice in academy. In Arena they never pay triple for novice spells.
It would not be OP imo. It's really easy to see it coming and counter it imo.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2017, 07:06:44 PM »
I'm holding all opinions on these until I see if & how to extend Dissipate because otherwise, I'm not a huge fan of that being used so much here.

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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2017, 09:23:37 PM »
I'm holding all opinions on these until I see if & how to extend Dissipate because otherwise, I'm not a huge fan of that being used so much here.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2017, 09:43:41 PM »
One of the reasons it's used on academy is those matches are typically shorter.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2017, 10:20:50 PM »
One of the reasons it's used on academy is those matches are typically shorter.

You mean the dissipate x trait?


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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #37 on: May 30, 2017, 01:21:10 AM »
One of the reasons it's used on academy is those matches are typically shorter.

It also keeps the cost low, which is important in Academy. AW is well aware of the average lifespan these cards are expected to have, and if Dissipate shortens that, they get a discount to their mana cost.

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« Reply #38 on: May 30, 2017, 02:28:19 AM »
In my experience academy, this card is especially good when used by removing a dissipate token. I wouldn't use it all that much by paying 3 mana.  :)

In arena, I think both paying and removing a dissipate token might be equally viable. Depending on the situation. This card is no doubt one of the key cards in the set to keep the forcemaster running strong.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #39 on: May 30, 2017, 11:41:21 PM »
I'm holding all opinions on these until I see if & how to extend Dissipate because otherwise, I'm not a huge fan of that being used so much here.

I think the creatures with dissipate are going to be fantastic in academy, but more niche in arena.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2017, 09:25:45 AM »
I'm holding all opinions on these until I see if & how to extend Dissipate because otherwise, I'm not a huge fan of that being used so much here.

I think the creatures with dissipate are going to be fantastic in academy, but more niche in arena.

Are you kidding me? They're quickcast creatures. QUICK. CAST. CREATURES. Arena forcemaster will love them. They will not be merely niche.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2017, 09:49:18 AM »
Yea I agree with sailor here they will be useful in arena too especially the gaurdians.  As a Straywood beastmaster lover his quick cast is one of the coolest abilities.  Having level two Quickcast on the bigger creatures is even more amazing.  This will help expand forcemaster meta.   Yea they dissipate but if you look at them compared to a bitterwood fox or any lvl one creature they have some staying power. 
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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2017, 10:47:49 AM »
Yea I agree with sailor here they will be useful in arena too especially the gaurdians.  As a Straywood beastmaster lover his quick cast is one of the coolest abilities.  Having level two Quickcast on the bigger creatures is even more amazing.  This will help expand forcemaster meta.   Yea they dissipate but if you look at them compared to a bitterwood fox or any lvl one creature they have some staying power.

Exactly! A quickcast guard is especially useful. And as far as Dissipate goes, how long would you expect these creatures to stay around? Five rounds seems about right for most level 2 creatures. Yeah, spending Dissipate tokens shortens this lifespan, but that's a tough choice you gotta make. If you are spending the last Dissipate token on an inactive creature (after it's finished acting for the round), then you really are spending the token for free. But any other time, it will have to be weighed against the cost of shortening the creature's life. I think this is an easy choice with level 1 creatures, who can easily be 1 shot and don't need such a long life, but I have a much harder time spending it off of the level 2 creatures.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2017, 10:57:41 AM »
I think the quick cast creatures are going to be a right pain to deal with when fighting against a Force Master but the dissipate question is going to be a huge strategy decision for FM players. That you can deploy these from a Minds Eye is fantastic.

Now as a Beast Master, my creatures tend to stick around for a good while but then that's sorta my thing. But don't forget as has been mentioned these creatures typically have Aegis so it's not like they're easy to kill anyway.
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Re: Forcemaster Academy Spoilers!
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