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Incapacitate?
« on: April 20, 2013, 02:22:05 AM »
Seems pretty strong for a 3 mana spell or stun after effect. I was playing warlock with sectarus and theres this priest with massing temple and 1 holy light temple. He had a Staff of Asyra: which allowed to stun me combined with the temple and the temples that give melee+1 he his hitting me for 9 dice with basic and 6 dice with holy light temple. Since i am stunned i cannot move. I summoned a minion but it was too late. Also we are playing with  50% life!

Since i cannot do anything i die gg incapacitate op.

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2013, 02:33:46 AM »
That is the strength of the priestess. It sounds like you need to take a more aggressive posture and not let her build up to that level. If you let her set up like that it will be tough to take her down.

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2013, 04:54:28 AM »
Don't let the Priestess build up 6 temples, and try Dissolving her Staff. You can't play solo against a Priestess with 6 temples and expect to win unless you rush her really fast and she keeps playing temples anyway. Even then it would be better to get at least one creature down so that you're not as vulnerable to daze/stun. You can also try to break line of sight to the Temple of Light, but it can shoot down Walls of Fire pretty easily by the time it's attacking for 6. Lash of Hellfire is extremely good at taking out conjurations. Burns can really help take out structures.
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2013, 10:23:18 AM »
She got goblin builders...

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2013, 10:24:05 AM »
Can i still move when I'm incapacitated since i was always in range of line of sight...

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2013, 10:40:06 AM »
Quote from: "Phillus" post=11432
She got goblin builders...


She still has to cast him. You still have to pressure early if you have the capability. If you don't I would change out a few cards so you can open faster if you have to. Like when playing against this build.

What mage are you playing?

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2013, 10:43:13 AM »
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Can i still move when I'm incapacitated since i was always in range of line of sight...


No you can't move while you are incapacitated. You could cast teleport to get out of range.

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2013, 12:12:44 PM »
I run 3-4 knock downs in some of my solo builds for this reason
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2013, 02:49:23 PM »
How does Knockdown help with any of this? It incapacitates a creature until the beginning of their action phase or the end of the round, so they still get to move and/or attack you with Staff of Asyra...
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 03:08:44 PM »
I with all honesty HATE Knockdown....I know its uses...non of which are good for me.
Where does my greatest enemy lie?
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2013, 01:57:36 AM »
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I with all honesty HATE Knockdown....I know its uses...non of which are good for me.


I see darth knows :lol:

Do you want to tell them or should I?
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2013, 08:50:14 AM »
Tell us ^^ what is the use of it?

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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2013, 09:00:25 AM »
Let them suffer!!!! Alright, I cant let you suffer "Too much"

An Incapacitated creature cannot take any actions, including moving,
attacking, guarding, casting spells, or counterstriking. It cannot use
any Defenses, and if a guard marker is on the creature, it is removed
immediately. A Flying creature loses the Flying trait as long as it is
Incapacitated. Any Damage Barrier on an Incapacitated creature continues
to function normally.
An Incapacitated creature cannot hinder the movement of enemies. Other
creatures may ignore an Incapacitated creature.
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2013, 02:47:46 PM »
Right, I know what Knockdown does, I just don't see how it helps to prevent your opponent from running away or hitting you in the face with Staff of Asyra and potentially daze/stun locking you. If you were talking about dealing with defenses, hindering, guards, counterstrikes, or flying creatures, it would have made sense to me. It just seemed an odd card choice for the context.
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Re: Incapacitate?
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2013, 03:49:52 PM »
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Right, I know what Knockdown does, I just don't see how it helps to prevent your opponent from running away or hitting you in the face with Staff of Asyra and potentially daze/stun locking you. If you were talking about dealing with defenses, hindering, guards, counterstrikes, or flying creatures, it would have made sense to me. It just seemed an odd card choice for the context.


I believe Shadow's least favorite mage is the priestess. Stun and incapacitate are great effects which he has to get through the use of other cards such as Knockdown.

Sorry Shadow, if I misrepresented your point, again.