Yeah I was thinking something similar (but different) to the invisible stalker, cause I loved that concept and would like to see it more viable.

   
we voted but we didn't know on what!

for me the nightmare creature was a metamorph or had no morph at all.
it would act in the dreams of his target pulling on its fears (that can have a visual character, or be a feeling, a smell, a noise,...).

Just trying to think what the Mage Wars equivalent is to Dominion's 'silver test'? i.e whats the decent average move others can be assessed against.  In a way, doing nothing is probably it.  However, the range of options you have in MW is infinitely broader than in a Dominion spread, so along these lines, if you ask:

• Could I do anything to increase my channeling
  Can I bring out a creature at 2-3 mana per damage dice or better 
  Can I increase my own or a creatures likelihood of doing more damage next turn
  Can I reduce the likelihood of myself or a creature dying this turn or next
  Can I improve my positioning strategically (get closer to bringing big damage, or avoiding it to myself)
  Estimating my opponents possible next move, is there anything I can do to negate it or make it less optimal for them
  

I don't think this encompasses everything, but it does make me wonder how often you'd want to do nothing considering all the things you 'could' do.

Did the new in-line tutorial help? Can you suggest any improvements or lessons we should add?

Hi SIke, yeah the inline tutorial was very helpful, but some of the basics in the first post of this thread helped too.  One of the hardest things to find was zooming and that made a real difference.

Probably some of the things to list would be what OCTGN doesnt manage - in a way I spent a lot of time trying to work out how to do things it doesnt look like it handles (like Pet).  Doing it manually is fine, once you know you have to

I watched the start of the youtube, how to play a game which helped as well.  I didn't watch it all though as I just wanted to play

It would be great if there was all this linked in one place inside the game - probably just expanding the how to play section, which again is very helpful.
 

Can someone post some tips for how some of the following aspects of play are managed by Octgn?

Making a creature your Pet (or bloodreaper etc) - at the moment I've just paid more mana and then dragged the pet token over.

Summoning a creature with a spawn point - at the moment I've double clicked the extra spell during planning, so it comes out face down.  Then I've dragged it to the spawnpoint and in deployment double clicked it.  That seems to work.

This has been an awesome learning thread, thanks Borg!

Hadn't even considered interrupting the spell by shifting the mage!

Thanks for the detailed points about Sam too, I had sort of forgotten/minimised the benefits of the angels heal and defense (dice hate me sometimes so I often feel a little meh about defense and prefer sure things).

Quote from: Moonglow on September 19, 2015, 04:50:07 PM

How does it counter the summoning? Are you casting it on their new summoned creature to teleport it away from defenses and into range of your most powerful attacks? Or just away from you? It only seems a small tempo advantage for 10+ mana?

PS steelclaw, is Samandriel that bad/different? It essentially comes with built in bear strength and divine might, so same casting cost as angel plus these. Sure you can't Et them, but they can't be dispelled either and there is tempo advantage. Although perhaps not that great with your stack approach. The SB cost is probably the main sticking point I guess.

If you reveal the DI and move the opposing mage to another zone before the creature spell resolves the spell will eventually fizzle because the mage is no longer in the zone which he originally targeted when casting the creature spell. ( range for a creature is 0-0 )

Samandriel is not so good in "taking care of herself" as the Guardian Angels.
She has no built-in defense and cannot heal herself.
She costs almost twice the price of an Angel and weighs in at 5 sbp's.
I don't mind losing an Angel, so I don't have to go out of my way to protect them
whereas Samandriel is such an investment you have to account for her safety all the time.
Therefore I prefer 2 Angels over Samandriel.

Nice! Am appreciating lion savagery a bit more than I was I think!  And, as steelclaw said, with piercing strike, a strong attack can start going through heavy armor conjurations and creatures like butter.

Hmmm elusive cheetah speed Bloodcrag minotaur with piercing strike lion savagery - similar effect +8 dice attack +4 piercing.

Damm, probably too long to setup, see why the angels work (or the falcons).

Quote from: Moonglow on September 19, 2015, 04:55:07 PM

Or am I missing something, should a flying creature always get charge if meleeing attacking on the ground? That would be cool and kinda makes sense, but probably makes lion savagery too strong then.

No, that would be too easy, wouldn't it ?

This is where the Cheetah Speed comes in.

The Angel is a Flyer, so it can move around unhindered as long as it doesn't start its movement in a zone or doesn't move into a zone containing an enemy flyer.

So, if you put a Cheetah Speed on the above mentioned enchanted Angel you can actually attack anything withing 2 zones with 7 dice + Pierce+1 and then do it again the same round by Transfusing your enchantment stack to your other Angel.
Even if your target is in your own zone, the Cheetah Speed allows you to move out of the zone and then back in it so you can trigger the Lion Savagery's Charge+2 ( provided there is no enemy flyer in that zone of course ).

Interesting comparison between the two books. My only note is that I think you're undervaluing Divine Intervention. It's not a defensive card, no matter what the flavor text says. Using it to counter summoning a creature is usually GG.

How does it counter the summoning? Are you casting it on their new summoned creature to teleport it away from defenses and into range of your most powerful attacks? Or just away from you? It only seems a small tempo advantage for 10+ mana?

PS steelclaw, is Samandriel that bad/different? It essentially comes with built in bear strength and divine might, so same casting cost as angel plus these. Sure you can't Et them, but they can't be dispelled either and there is tempo advantage. Although perhaps not that great with your stack approach. The SB cost is probably the main sticking point I guess.