Flyers pushed against outer walls. Bashed?

[Koz]

If a flyer is pushed against an outer wall, do they get Bashed like any other creature?  Since the outer walls are supposed to extend high enough to prevent flyers from leaving the arena, we have been playing it as yes, they do.  This game tends to follow logic, and this seems pretty logical.  What's the official answer though?

[mitkosim]

Yes, they do. I had this question quite a while ago and put it on the BGG forums. Here is the link:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/837996/home-run

[Koz]

Actually I did see that before, but I'm not sure if the person who answered it is an employee of AW or if it was just someone answering who thinks they know the answer.  That's why I like going here for rules quesitions because I know who all of the "official" people are  

Thank you for the reply, but I just want to make sure that answer is correct before I find out at a very inconvienient time (like a tournament).

[mitkosim]

He is official Art director for AW. But I'm sure someone else will chime in here too.

[Shad0w]

Art Direction: John Guytan, Sean McCoy
John Guytan is indeed the AW art director

Bashed
When a creature is Pushed into a wall with the Passage Blocked trait it is bashed. It receives an unavoidable attack of 3 attack dice of damage. The walls around the arena have the Passage Blocked trait.

Note: PG: 21
For game purposes, the walls around the outside of the arena have the Passage Blocked and Blocks LoS traits.

So yes they would take Bash damage. I hope that helps.

[Arcanus]

Normally flyers do NOT encounter walls, when moving or being pushed.  However, they do get bashed when pushed against the OUTSIDE arena walls.  Those are considered high walls, and the ultimate boundary to the arena.

I hope that clarification helps!

[Koz]

Very much so.  Thanks to all who answered.  We were playing it right, but apparently some people on BGG were not.  

Thanks again!

[Shad0w]

Normally flyers do NOT encounter walls, when moving or being pushed.  However, they do get bashed when pushed against the OUTSIDE arena walls.  Those are considered high walls, and the ultimate boundary to the arena.

I hope that clarification helps!

In order to push them into non arena wall you would need something like Maim Wings or Knock Down :whistle:

[PBKWMatt]

Normally flyers do NOT encounter walls, when moving or being pushed.  However, they do get bashed when pushed against the OUTSIDE arena walls.  Those are considered high walls, and the ultimate boundary to the arena.

I hope that clarification helps!

In order to push them into non arena wall you would need something like Maim Wings or Knock Down :whistle:

Force Push.  Jet Stream.  No defense roll vs Force Push as well.  I would think that the push effect of Jet Stream is unavoidable to.

[mitkosim]

The thing is if they have Flying when pushed, they ignore non-outer walls. Hence the need to maim their wings or knock them down in order to push them into non-arena walls.