ADMW Winter Special Video Tread

[Reddicediaries]

Yeah I really like that priest book, but i REALLY should have known that mambo was gonna bring a necro. That's a really bad matchup for that book as it doesn't have a ton of stuff in it to "kill the batman" as it were. Zombies are real tough and mambo is a great player!

Vs Necro's, you need to properly judge what they are doing, when, how, and with what team you want to move in with, and what is the first priority target.

[RomeoXero]

So you've got to... play intelligent mage wars? Lol, that's how you win any game of mage wars against any mage.

[Reddicediaries]

So you've got to... play intelligent mage wars? Lol, that's how you win any game of mage wars against any mage.

That's true, but you need to be really smart vs Necro's.

[Biblofilter]

Part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXtmRtwXjzA
Part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djRITF80PHs
Part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWjmHA25dg8
Part 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2jZynPJ5-I

#13 Werekingdom (Necromancer) vs. Keejchen (Druid)/38/42/5/10

A1 A2 A3 A4
B1 B2 B3 B4
C1 C2 C3 C4

Death Ring                                            Vine Tree (C4)
Libro Morteous                                      Mana Flower (C3)
                                                              Forgets Treebonding

Plague Zombie (Eternal Servant)           Felella
Cloak of Shadows                                  Rhino Hide FD Druid
Not enough mana for a Quick cast         

Venomous Zombie                                  Nullify FD Felella (Felella)
Knockdown Felella   -->                          Nullified
Tanglevine Druid                                     Tataree
                                                               Bear Strenght FD Druid
         
                                                               Remembers Treebond
Deathlock A3                                           Vinesnapper C3
No mana for 2 action                               Enchantment Necro
                                                                Enchantment Druid (Felella)
                                                                Hit w Bear Strenght

                                                                Vinesnapper A3
Decoy Druid                                             Tanglevine Plauge Zombie
Idol of Pestilence  (A4)                             Gator Toughness Druid (Felella)
                                                                Hit Venomous Zombie   

                                                                Dissolve Cloak
Tanglevine Druid                                      Hit Venomous Zombie
Guard Idol                                                Cheetah Speed FD Druid (Felella)

                                                                 Pillar of Righteous Flame
Enfeeble FD (Druid)                                   Hit Venomous Zombie
Arcane Corruption FD (Druid)                    Enchantment Druid (Felella)
                                                                 Snapper kills Deathlock

reveals Arcane Corruption

end of part1                                             19 damage on Druid and 3 Rots

Skeleton Archer                                                                                 
Arcane Ward (Arcane Corruption)            Enchantment Transfusion FD (Felella)                                                                   
guard B4                                                  Hit Tanglevine
                                                                Meredias Blessing
                                                                 
                                                                Transfuse 4 Enchants to Felella
                                                                Pillar kills Plague Zombie (1 more Rot)

                                                                Vine Snapper
Hit Tree                                                    rvl Cheetah Speed and kills Tanglevine w Felella
No Quickcast                                            Lesser Teleport Druid B3>B2
                                                                Doublemove B2>C1

                                                                Tanglevine Plague Zombie
Lesser Teleport                                        Renewing Spring
Enchantment FD (Druid)                           Drink (heal 5 remove rot?)

                                                                Tanglevine Necro
Zombie Brute                                           Wall of Thorns B2/B3
Mage Wand (Teleport)                             Drink
Teleport (from MW)
 
Teleport (from MW)
Poison Blood FD (Druid)                          Felella att Idol
rvl PB                                                      Drink remove Rot
Move Brute through WoT                 

end of part 2       

Teleport                                                  Corrosive Orchid
Tanglevine                                              Etherian Lifetree
                                                               
                                                               Raptor Vine (guard)
Wall of Bones x2                                     Rouse the Beast
guard

Acid Ball                                                   Surging Wave
Devils Trident kills Druid
                                                                                     


 

[bigfatchef]

From all the games we have seen so far and from a lot of the ones to come, the non creature spawnpoint books have been wiping the floor with the creature spawnpoint ones.
That is, the non creature spawnpoint books have won almost every time, not that the games weren't close.

That is by far the most interesting analysis of the tournament!
Can you tell me the matchups concerning that fact in quick list? It would take me hours

[Reddicediaries]

Shark vs Drmambo: Shark uses a forge and blue knight to take out Mambo's creaturs. As biblo pointed out, 8 dice for blue knight + 5 dice for ballista + x dice for paladin means almost anything Mambo played just instantly died.
P00pstar vs Werekingom: P00p's warlock smashes Werekingdom's priest.
Grimmbart vs Werekingdom: Grimmbart plays an amazing ehren + sealed demon + grimson forcemaster and smashes Werekingdom's Druid. Werekingdom played well, but was a bit tired and amazing play from grimmbart put the pressure on.
Jacksmack vs Enti: Jacksmack uses cervere and a deathlock to smash enti's preistess. Enti ran towards the deathlock, why I don't know. This game is a good example of how priestess angel spam is only really good when the opponent doesn't do anything. Enti tried playing a priest that was essentially the same as his priestess which I HIGHLY disagreed with vs Shark and that game took over 4 hours!
Jack Vs Keej: Jack Araxian rushes in with forge, the imp familar, and sealed demon for backup vs Keej's wizard. Personally, I think keejchen should have won this game. Instead of taking jack out, he turtled and lost as a result.
Those are the main ones of the top of my head.

[Biblofilter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC1QNpORqN4

#14 Aridigas (Arraxian Crown Warlock) Vs. Keejchen (Anvil Throne Warlord)3:06/27 rounds

A1 A2 A3 A4
B1 B2 B3 B4
C1 C2 C3 C4
D1 D2 D3 D4

Mana Crystal A1                                           Mana Flower D4
Battleforge B1                                              Battleforge B4
Stays A1                                                       D4>B4

Enchanters Ring                                           Leather Chausses
Blood Demon Blood Reaper                          Ballista C3
Enchantment BD                                           Mana Flower A4
                                                                     B4>B3

Fire Shaper Ring                                           Elemental Wand (Hurl Rock)
Wall of Bones  B1>B2                                   Ballista Shot at Wall
Bear Strength FD ACW                                 Champions Gauntlets
Blood Demon hides behind wall                    Enchantment
A1>A2                                                           B3>B4                                             

Lash of Hellfire                                              Harshforge Plate
Force Push A2>B2                                         B4>B3                                 
B2>B3 rvl and hit Ballista                              Hurl Rock (Wand)

                                                                   
Firestream                                                     Pillar of Righteous Flame
B3>B2 Dragonscale Hauberk                         Force Push ACW B2>B3

Going to do some commentary after the first 5 round and change to Schwenkgotts Thunderdome channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcl1ISXdxhA                                 No audio on the Arcane Duels Video.

                                                                     Mage Wand (Teleport)
Demonic Link (BD)                                         B3>B2
B3>B2 Regrowth Belt                                    Hurl Rock (Wand)
                                                                     Teleport ACW     

                                                                     Dancing Scimitar
Mage Wand (Minor Heal)                              Dissolve (Wand)
Minor Heal                                                    Hurl Rock (Wand)

Bear Strength FD BD                                     Acid Ball
B3>A3 Teleport >A1                                      Hurl Rock  (Wand)

Cloak of Shadows                                         
Wall of Bones A1>A2                                    Hawkeye FD ATW
Nullify FD ACW                                   

Mage Wand (Heal)                                       Change spell  on Mage Wand  (Dissolve)             
Heal (Wand)                                                 Dissolve Regrowth Belt (Mage Wand)
Hit                                                                                                                           

Elemental Wand (removes Mage Wand)         
Wall of Bones                                              Hurl Boulder
                                                                    Hurl Rock (Wand)

"Comeback break" 1:08

Mage Wand (rmv Elemental Wand)             Eagleclaw Boots
Double Move A1>A3                                    Climb Wall
Enchantment ACW
BD att itself

Force Push                                                  Fireball> Blood Demon
Heal (Mage Wand)                                      No Quick Cast

                                                                   Regrowth Belt
Heal                                                            Ballista B3
Move 2  (B3)                                               Hurl Rock on Demon (Elemental Wand)

                                                                  Hurl Rock on Demon (Elemental Wand
Fireball ATW                                               Ballista kills Blood Demon
Hits Wall
                                                                   
Dragonscale Hauberk
Poison Blood FD ATW                                Akiro´s Favor ATW
Ghoul Rot FD ATW                                     Change Spell (Minor Heal) on Mage Wand

Hit (scimitar defends)                               Water Cloak
Enchantment  FD ATW                              Remove Curse
                                                                 Minor Heal (Mage Wand)                                                           
Poison Blood FD ATW                             
Hits Ballista                                              Decoy
(rvl Nullify)                                                Hits with Scimitar
                                                                Change Spell
rvl Poison Blood

                                                                Veterans Belt
Zombie Brute                                           Dissolve Mage Wand (Mage Wand)
Rhino Hide FD ACW                                 Iron Golem

Agony FD Iron Golem                               Dissolve Fireshaper Ring (Mage Wand)
Guard                                                     Dispel Poison Blood

                                                                Brace Yourself FD ATW
Hit Iron Golem                                          Dissolve Dragonscale Hauberk (Mage Wand)
Arcane Corruption FD ATW
                           

                                                                Regrowth Belt
Mage Bane FD ATW                                  Change Spell (Mage Wand)
Hit                                                            Dispel Arcane Corruption(Mage Wand)


                                                                Wand of Healing (Removes Elemental Wand)
                                                                Dispel Mage Bane (Mage Wand)
Zombie Brute                                           use Wand of Healing Healing Light
Bull Endurance FD ACW             

                                                               Dispel Rhino Hide (Mage Wand)
Firestream Iron Golem                            Hit ACW
B3>B2 Consegrated ground B3              Hit Flying Slash             


Dragonscale Hauberk                            Elemental Wand (Hurl Boulder)
B2>B1 guard                                         Step Hill
                                                              Hit Flying Slash             
                                                              Hurl Boulder (Elemental Wand)


Teleport                                                 Lesser Teleport                                         
B1>A1                                                    Hurl  Boulder (Elemental Wand)
Reveal Bull Endurance                     

Elemental Wand                                     
                                                             Hurl Boulder (Elemental Wand)

[Biblofilter]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0xZ0AT0kVk

Mirrormatch!

Priest vs Priest and Sharks playing his second Holy Mage?

Going to try and reconstruct/guess the first rounds as the video start a bit in

A1 A2 A3 A4
B1 B2 B3 B4
C1 C2 C3 C4

Meditating Monk                                               Temple of Asyra C4
Mana Crystal                                                    Harmonize

Sunfire Amulet                                                   Cassiel
Asyrian Cleric                                                   Meditation Amulet
                                                                         Meditate

Asyran Cleric                                                    Ehren
Temple of Asyra                                                Regrowth (Ehren)
                                                                         Meditate

Asyran Cleric                                                    Brogan
Guardian Angel                                                Divine Reversal FD Brogan(Cassiel)
Rhino Hide FD (Priest)                                      Enchantment Ring
                                                                        Meditate
                                                                       
Light of Dawn                                                  Dorseus
Dawnbreakers Ring                                         Enchantment FD Priest (Priest)
Enchantment FD (Priest)                                 Meditate

More or less what must have happened the first 5 rounds.

Light of Dawn                                                  Alendell
Resplendid Bow                                               Meditate 
No Quickcast                                                    Divine Protection FD Brogan (Cassiel)
                                                                        Eye for an Eye FD Dorseus (Priest)

                                                                        Moves his creatures forward > D2

"Meditating out of Position"                             
                                                                        Double move Priest D4>D2
Steep Hill                                                         Chant of Rage on Light of Dawn (Priest)
Light of Dawn ranged vs Brogan
Malakai´s Basilika                                       

Crusader Griffin Holy Avenger         
Force Push (Chant of Rage LoD)                     Healing Madrigal FD Brogan (Priest)                                                                             
Hit Brogan                                                       Consecrated Ground replace Steep Hill.

It might be better for Sharks Priest to attack Alendell with his Priest. He does have that Sunfire Amulet so he should be able to take a hit or 2 from Alendell. Point of that would be to save the Chant of Raged Light of Dawn for another round.

Snowduck seems to have the upper hand here, because he has a couple of creatures with regen. Sharkbait has one thing really going for him at that is their fighting in his Temple zone. So reinforcements will be directly at the front.

Sharks seems to change focus and give Dorseus Light+1 rather than Brogan   

                                                                      Pillar of Righteous Flame (hits LoD)
                                                                      Hit Priest
Bowshot Dorseus                                          Divine Reversal Dorseus (Cassiel)
Luminous Blast

Messinger of Bim-Shalla                                Chant of Rage (Guardian Angel)
B1>A1  Guard                                                Divine Reversal FD Alendell (Priest)
Circle of Light FD Priest                                 Healing Madrigal FD (Cassiel)

                                                                     Reveal  Healing Madrigal in upkeep.

                                                                     Luminous Blast on Griffin
Enchantment FD Griffin                                 Hit Priest
Cure Griffin remove Daze
Att Cassiel with Griffin                               

11 rounds at 1:30 - so we are looking at a 30 rounds game?

Seeking Dispel (Alendell Eye)                     Knight of Westlock Holy Avenger
                                                                  Divine Reversal FD Cassiel (Cassiel)
                                                                   Meditate
                                                                   Bear Strength Brogan (Priest)

Acid Ball  Alandell                                       Defend Ehren
Mending Wave                                           Luminous Blast KoW

Pillar of Righteous Flame                           Hand Of Bim-Shalla A1
Luminous Blast                                          Guard

Teleport                                                     Hit Priest
Eye for an Eye FD Priest                            Divine Reversal FD Cassiel (Cassiel)
rvl vs Brogan (kills him)                             Healing Madrigal FD Knight of Westlock (Priest)

                                                                  Guardian Angel
Chant of Rage KoW (Hate Griffin)               Dispel Chant of Rage
Hit Priest                                                     Regrowth FD Priest (Priest)

Arcane Ward (Circle of Light)                     Leather Chausses
Dispel Regrowth                                        Sunfire Burst Guardian Angel
                                                                  Purify Shark (Cassiel)

Heal Griffin       
Force Push Griffin                                      Luminous Blast
                                                                 Minor Heal Priest (Cassiel)
                                                                 Regrowth FD Priest (Priest)

2:57 /18 rounds   

Pillar of Light (kills Cassiel)                       Defend     
Enchantment FD Priest                             Enchantment FD Priest
                                                                   
                                                                  Dissolve Sunfire Amulet
Bow vs Angel                                             Leather Belt
Minor Heal

Radiant Breastplate                                  Guardian Angel
Messenger of Bim-Shalla                           Divine Intervention FD Griffin
                                                                 rvl DI Teleport Griffin A1>D4
                                                                 Meditate

Divine Reversal FD Priest                          Dispel Rhino Hide                     
Healing Charm Priest                                 Hit Priest

Minor Heal Angel                                        Dawnbreakers Ring
Bowshot Angel                                           Sunfire Burst Priest

Heal Priest                                                 Circle of Light Priest
Bowshot Angel                                           Hit Priest

                                                                  Knight of Westlock
Song of Love KoW HA                                Cure Ehren (remove Daze)
Mending Wave                                     

Falcon Precision FD Griffin                          Pillar of Light Priest   
Wand of Healing                                       

Defend on Angel
Fireball Priest                                            rvl Eye for Eye Fireball kills Shark.

26 rounds

[Reddicediaries]

When I saw enti's priest, I was so confused.
It looks to me that he's not playing a priest, he's playing a priest who is playing exactly like a priestess and is ignoring HA.
I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths.

[Biblofilter]

When I saw enti's priest, I was so confused.
It looks to me that he's not playing a priest, he's playing a priest who is playing exactly like a priestess and is ignoring HA.
I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths.

I partly agree with you. I made a Priest spellbook before Priestess Acedemy,PvS and LG.
I changed it for a Priestess just because "if im going to stay in my corner the whole game and meditate" why not have 10 channeling instead of 9. In the ADMW Winter Special your limited to not use the same mage more than once (1 mage twice) It very logical to make a couple of more or less identical spellbooks: Priestess, Paladin, Priest or Paladin, Warlord, Warlord or Warlock, Warlock, (Necro) or Beastmaster, Beastmaster, (Druid)

In fact i´m pretty sure you can find players who have used very similar spellbooks with different mages.

Not a bad strategy at all. If you comfortable with a spellbook and know that mage, his spells very well, your likely to do well with a similar build with a similar mage.

I disagree with "I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths". Even if i just started watching the video i think snowduck´s /enti´s spellbook looks quite strong.

Cassiel, Ehren, Brogan, Dorseus and Alendell out at round 6?

I think you can complete ignore some of your mages strengths or abilities in play and spellbookbuilding and still do very well.

[Reddicediaries]

When I saw enti's priest, I was so confused.
It looks to me that he's not playing a priest, he's playing a priest who is playing exactly like a priestess and is ignoring HA.
I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths.

I partly agree with you. I made a Priest spellbook before Priestess Acedemy,PvS and LG.
I change it for a Priestess just because "if im going to stay in my corner the whole game and meditate" why not have 10 channeling instead of 9. In the ADMW Winter Special your limited to not use the same mage more than once (1 mage twice) It very logical to make a couple of more or less identical spellbooks: Priestess, Paladin, Priest or Paladin, Warlord, Warlord or Warlock, Warlock, (Necro) or Beastmaster, Beastmaster, (Druid)

In fact i´m pretty sure you can find players who have used very similar spellbooks with different mages.

Not a bad strategy at all. If you comfortable with a spellbook and know that mage, his spells very well, your likely to do well with a similar build with a similar mage.

I disagree with "I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths". Even if i just started watching the video i think snowduck´s /enti´s spellbook looks quite strong.

Cassiel, Ehren, Brogan, Dorseus and Alendell out at round 6?

I think you can complete ignore some of your mages strengths or abilities in play and spellbookbuilding and still do very well.

Well, you served me Biblo.
The main thing I don't like is that non the priest's unique abilities are being used.
I think not using HA is a BIG mistake.
I'm pretty sure Coshade will agree with me on this: play to a mage's strengths. The priest's strengths are not mass high level creatures and no HA.

[Sailor Vulcan]

When I saw enti's priest, I was so confused.
It looks to me that he's not playing a priest, he's playing a priest who is playing exactly like a priestess and is ignoring HA.
I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths.

I partly agree with you. I made a Priest spellbook before Priestess Acedemy,PvS and LG.
I change it for a Priestess just because "if im going to stay in my corner the whole game and meditate" why not have 10 channeling instead of 9. In the ADMW Winter Special your limited to not use the same mage more than once (1 mage twice) It very logical to make a couple of more or less identical spellbooks: Priestess, Paladin, Priest or Paladin, Warlord, Warlord or Warlock, Warlock, (Necro) or Beastmaster, Beastmaster, (Druid)

In fact i´m pretty sure you can find players who have used very similar spellbooks with different mages.

Not a bad strategy at all. If you comfortable with a spellbook and know that mage, his spells very well, your likely to do well with a similar build with a similar mage.

I disagree with "I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths". Even if i just started watching the video i think snowduck´s /enti´s spellbook looks quite strong.

Cassiel, Ehren, Brogan, Dorseus and Alendell out at round 6?

I think you can complete ignore some of your mages strengths or abilities in play and spellbookbuilding and still do very well.

Well, you served me Biblo.
The main thing I don't like is that non the priest's unique abilities are being used.
I think not using HA is a BIG mistake.
I'm pretty sure Coshade will agree with me on this: play to a mage's strengths. The priest's strengths are not mass high level creatures and no HA.

Ha isn't the priest's only strength, though.


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[Reddicediaries]

When I saw enti's priest, I was so confused.
It looks to me that he's not playing a priest, he's playing a priest who is playing exactly like a priestess and is ignoring HA.
I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths.

I partly agree with you. I made a Priest spellbook before Priestess Acedemy,PvS and LG.
I change it for a Priestess just because "if im going to stay in my corner the whole game and meditate" why not have 10 channeling instead of 9. In the ADMW Winter Special your limited to not use the same mage more than once (1 mage twice) It very logical to make a couple of more or less identical spellbooks: Priestess, Paladin, Priest or Paladin, Warlord, Warlord or Warlock, Warlock, (Necro) or Beastmaster, Beastmaster, (Druid)

In fact i´m pretty sure you can find players who have used very similar spellbooks with different mages.

Not a bad strategy at all. If you comfortable with a spellbook and know that mage, his spells very well, your likely to do well with a similar build with a similar mage.

I disagree with "I think the book is not good as he completely ignored the priests strengths". Even if i just started watching the video i think snowduck´s /enti´s spellbook looks quite strong.

Cassiel, Ehren, Brogan, Dorseus and Alendell out at round 6?

I think you can complete ignore some of your mages strengths or abilities in play and spellbookbuilding and still do very well.

Well, you served me Biblo.
The main thing I don't like is that non the priest's unique abilities are being used.
I think not using HA is a BIG mistake.
I'm pretty sure Coshade will agree with me on this: play to a mage's strengths. The priest's strengths are not mass high level creatures and no HA.

Ha isn't the priest's only strength, though.


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Why would you ever play priest if you don't use HA?
If you do that, the priest is literally poor man's priestess who can punch things.
NEVER EVER ignore an ability.

[Sailor Vulcan]

Well I expect that if you want to rush the enemy with light attacks you're better off with priest than priestess because of his other ability. While most of the time it's useful to take all abilities into account when spellbook building, you don't always have to use all of your abilities in every matchup.

I.e. If you want a warlock that uses a buddy goran instead of a bloodreaper. He's the only one who can use goran so based on this it's clear that the designers expected players to not use all abilities every game and perhaps even not in every book.


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[RomeoXero]

 Dude, you can do whatever you want. If you play to two of a mages strengths and ignore one you probably just have a really fine point on your book focus. Is the Joktari rushmaster a bad book? It completely ignores two of its abilities entirely in favor of killing you right away. Some mages are easier to plan there abilities, or they just happen anyway when doing things like attacking  (battle skill for instance) or summoning creatures (quick summoning, blood reaper, or pet) or are passive and happen always (poison immumity, deflect, and smoldering curses are decent examples). Sometimes its easy to account for one or note of these just by being a mage who's going to attack or curse. Sometimes its not as easy to account for all of them.
Bottom line build what you want. Ive got a priestess full of curses and malacoda abd its a freaking blast!