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Help with dealing with acid ball
« on: July 02, 2016, 09:19:14 AM »
I am having trouble finding the best way to counter acid ball. I ran into this problem with my grizzly book, it's on the forums. Any   suggestions, (maybe raincloud)
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 12:27:19 PM »
I think there are some ways of how to defend/prevent acid ball.

First is to completly prevent [mwcard=DNA01]Acid Ball[/mwcard] with [mwcard=MW1E23]Jinx[/mwcard] or completly negate it with[mwcard=MW1E02]Block[/mwcard].

Second is to try avoid it with [mwcard=MW1E07]Cobra Reflexes[/mwcard] or by being out of line of sight with [mwcard=MW1W01]Fog Bank[/mwcard] or out of reach with [mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ06]Rolling Fog[/mwcard].

Last thing is to remove Corrode from bear with [mwcard=DNQ09]Wand of Healing[/mwcard], [mwcard=MWBG1J04]Raincloud[/mwcard] or this new card in Academy Priestess. If i remember correctly form Tom Vassal spoilers, its called Cure and allows you to remove condition tokens together with healing :)



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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 12:30:51 PM »
Thanks! Just to specify, I'm talking about non mage creatures.
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2016, 12:35:35 PM »
Aha! So the source of acid is [mwcard=DNJ02]Corrosive Orchid[/mwcard], [mwcard=DNC16]Spitting Raptor[/mwcard] or [mwcard=DNC03]Devouring Jelly[/mwcard]?

Hmm, this widens options a little bit. You can [mwcard=MW1I12]Force Push[/mwcard]ing them away or using [mwcard=MW1E34]Reverse Attack[/mwcard] on them.

Last thing that pop up in my head is to increase Bears armor back again in case you dont have tools to remove or prevent Corrode on your bears. [mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]Brace Yourself[/mwcard] or [mwcard=MW1E36]Rhino Hide[/mwcard] could help, yet this is not the most effective way i guess :)
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2016, 01:22:28 PM »
Oh sorry. There seems to be a misunderstanding. I meant my non mage creatures are being corroded. No worries, my fault entirely. The info you gave me is still very helpful.
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2016, 02:36:22 PM »
Is there a specific reason why you want to counter Acid ball ?
Is the situation THAT problematic ? What exactly is it ?

Sometimes the best answer is to ignore it and do something DANGEROUS yourself.
Do something that forces your opponent to react to you rather than you reacting to his play.
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 04:25:53 PM »
I just feel like creatures with 3 and more armor are really tough, but can get taken down easily when acid ball is thrown in there.
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2016, 10:15:51 PM »
Bridge Troll cares not for your Acid Ball!
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2016, 03:03:46 AM »
If your creature has 0 armor because of 2 corrodes or more, you can cast rust, and 2 corrodes will go away. Then you move the rust to the enemy with enchantment transfusion or shift enchantment. (Thank you Mystery)

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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2016, 10:12:12 AM »
Bridge Troll cares not for your Acid Ball!

Although without some kind of armor, he's toast.
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 10:27:56 AM »
Bridge Troll cares not for your Acid Ball!

Although without some kind of armor, he's toast.

I have to disagree. I played with my "Trollord" book for a long time and Trolls with Vampiric could be unstopable force if they not met a Deathlock or Poisoned Blood and also as was pointed out, if your opponent is forcing you to react on his action, do something that he will have to react on himself :)
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2016, 10:35:25 AM »
Very true. However, against the adramelech, he will become toast with out armor. Two 16-21 dice fireballs and he's toast.
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2016, 12:00:00 PM »
Back to my first post :)

Prevent, Avoid, Protect, Cure.

You would be amazed what "Brace yourself" can help you withstand :)
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2016, 12:02:26 PM »
You could try running a grizzly with a Priestess 8)
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Re: Help with dealing with acid ball
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2016, 02:35:00 PM »
Very true. However, against the adramelech, he will become toast with out armor. Two 16-21 dice fireballs and he's toast.

Well, in that case he should be, shouldn't he ?
Have you done the math at how much mana has been thrown at his destruction ?

A grizzly is 17 mana and one full action

Your opponent has thrown at least 1 Acid Ball at him (5)
plus two Fireballs (16) and since you're saying here the fireballs did 16-21 damage I assume there's a Curse on him too ( +/-5 ) and the Warlock is likely wearing a Fireshaper ring (3) and a Hawkeye (3) but these latter two are not lost after his destruction.

That means there's a total of about 32 mana spent on his destruction of which 26 mana is lost and at least 6 actions.
This means you come out on top imo, certainly if you managed to hit with the grizzly at least once. You gain about 15 mana and 5 actions on him. What did you do with those ?
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