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List of viable spellbook archetypes
« on: May 16, 2016, 08:17:54 PM »
So I noticed that the White Spires is mainly for very notable specific spellbooks, and the "complete list" is for EVERY spellbook. This is something slightly different. Instead of listing specific spellbook lists, I am going to list strategic archetypes. This will keep things simple and will be easier to update as more kinds of strategies get invented.

Galvitar Rush
Thoughtspore Buddy
Forcemaster + Big offensive creature
Forge Forcemaster
Hyper Aggressive Arraxian Crown Warlock
Johktari Rushmaster
Wizard Tower Rush
Fatigue Forcemaster
Blasting Banker
Lord of Fire Warlock
Malakai HA buddy
Unstoppable Forcemaster
Priestess'e Divine Intervention Buddy
Arraxian Crown Pentagram
Pit trap Forcemaster
Mohktari treebond Druid
Some kinds of Temple of Asyra Priestess
Altar of Domination Warlord
Watergate Wizard
Guardian Angel Quartet
Straywood Animal Kinship
Steelclaw Matriarch and Cubs
Straywood canine swarm
Straywood cat swarm
Beastslinger
Zombie Swarm
Mana Denial Swarm Wizard
Druid Kill Zone
Cleric Swarm
Walled in Zombie Swarm
Skeleton swarm
Johktari cat swarm
Johktari canine swarm
Goblin Swarm Warlord
Adramelech Warlock swarm that focuses on destroying enemy creatures
Forcemaster with Thoughtspores and Walls of Force
Sudowoodo Druid

What else am I missing? Anything else you think I should add to the list?

Thanks!
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2016, 09:37:58 PM »
under rush there is the divine intervention instant rush. vampiress or brogan (insert big creature) and DI buff and hit turn 2
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2016, 04:03:02 AM »
how you define viable.

In a competive meta: I dont see many of those books and you miss a lot of things

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List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2016, 06:58:05 AM »
how you define viable.

In a competive meta: I dont see many of those books and you miss a lot of things

Sorry I meant potentially viable in some sort of organized play meta at some point in time. But that would have been wordy.
The reason I didn't come up with any more was because I was kind of tired and wasn't remembering all of them.
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2016, 07:55:06 AM »
That all having been said, if anyone else has suggestions for the list, please feel free to mention them.
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2016, 12:07:33 PM »
how you define viable.

In a competive meta: I dont see many of those books and you miss a lot of things

Sorry I meant potentially viable in some sort of organized play meta at some point in time. But that would have been wordy.
The reason I didn't come up with any more was because I was kind of tired and wasn't remembering all of them.

I think it might make more sense to rename this thread "List of Coherent Spellbook Archetypes".

What do you think?
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2016, 12:57:09 PM »
i'm not sure if classifying it by the amount of creatures is a good way.

cause you can go buddy tank, few big tank, same with curses...

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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2016, 02:01:12 PM »
i'm not sure if classifying it by the amount of creatures is a good way.

cause you can go buddy tank, few big tank, same with curses...

Yeah now that I think of it turtle refers more to a specific kind of defensive positioning used by a build with any number of creatures (although usually with more). I should probably replace the few big turtle with few big tank. Thanks for pointing that out!
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2016, 03:00:13 PM »
i'm not sure if classifying it by the amount of creatures is a good way.

cause you can go buddy tank, few big tank, same with curses...

I thought about it a bit more and I think you're right. There are multiple ways to classify strategic play styles in Mage Wars, not just number of creatures or how offensive or defensive the strategy is. Also important is the spellbook's essential resources. I've edited my playstyle chart in the strategy and tactics section to reflect this.
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2016, 06:12:40 PM »
First things missing I see are:

- heavy DOT builds
- Adramelech fire rush
- wizard with ballista / towers
- conjuration-heavy warlock (goblin builder and construction yard)
- tank dwarf
- necro ichthellids / sacrificial altar / growing ravenous ghoul
- wall of thorn push (is more a move bit maybe fits here if it is a core-idea of a book)
- all flying / all ethereal
- necro poison / tainted
- and of course the not working dragonbook and the also not working gate to hell book :)

I feel like some books are more depending on some synergies, others are build around single cards and some are more flexible around a Playstlye. And most mix them.

All i all I like the idea of collecting well known metas.

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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2016, 06:03:23 AM »
I made an excel table about this but not sure how to add it here without hard forum code formatting

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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2016, 02:57:35 PM »
First things missing I see are:

- heavy DOT builds
- Adramelech fire rush
- wizard with ballista / towers
- conjuration-heavy warlock (goblin builder and construction yard)
- tank dwarf
- necro ichthellids / sacrificial altar / growing ravenous ghoul
- wall of thorn push (is more a move bit maybe fits here if it is a core-idea of a book)
- all flying / all ethereal
- necro poison / tainted
- and of course the not working dragonbook and the also not working gate to hell book :)

I feel like some books are more depending on some synergies, others are build around single cards and some are more flexible around a Playstlye. And most mix them.

All i all I like the idea of collecting well known metas.

Not to derail this conversation, but where do the Ballista cards come from? I've purchased every expansion and don't have this card but would like to!!!
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2016, 03:26:20 PM »
Its a promo and it hasn't been released yet. It's still a bit unbalanced in its current form.
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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2016, 04:21:42 PM »
What have I done!? There are too many of them to remember them all at once!


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Re: List of viable spellbook archetypes
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2016, 07:03:41 PM »
I made an excel table about this but not sure how to add it here without hard forum code formatting
You could export it as csv and then replace commas, linestart and lineend with the approriate forum code tags. Using a decent text editor, this should not be too hard.
I would really like to see this table.  :D
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