MAGE ROARS ROUND 1 PAIRINGS AND BOOKS!

[The Dude]

Hey there folks! So in this topic I will be listing the round 1 pairings, and then below this each and every one of our books will be displayed prominently! All numbers were generated

So Round 1:

Dude-Puddnhead


Mystery-Halewjn

intangible-sharkbait

adoryc-arxiducs

coshade- Thesaris

moldrid-defran

Schwengott-Henry_Ketchup

Let's get warring!

[Mystery]

who said that books are known?

That really changes a lot

[Schwenkgott]

Why are you posting the decks?

[Halewijn]

There goes my surprise samandriel 

[Mystery]

honestly guys you can boot me, under those cicumstances I'm out. That makes no sense

and if you want to do it like this post it before, than you make decks that are less obvious

suprises go away

[Schwenkgott]

Yes, I won't play a game while my opponent knows exactly what's coming 

[Mystery]

That what's coming is one point. But that you exactly know, which pieces of equipment and enchantments are still in the box and you know how many dispels and dissolves each have, than you know when to keep and when not...

[Coshade]

Perhaps we should delay the first round. I really am excited for this league!

[The Dude]

Guys, in the previous thread it was brought up.that i would have an unfair advantage over the other players if i got.to see the books and noone else did. So, i posted that i would share the books to take.that advantage away. This is a free tournament in which prizes will.be given out. With that being said, anyone who wants to drop can. The point of this league was to.have fun, and if.that takes the fun away from you, i completely understand.

[Laddinfance]

Would it help to have an unaffiliated party with the spellbook sheets that can make sure they're legal and provide them after the games are done?

Just throwing ideas out there, it's my 2 mana take it for what it's worth.

[ringkichard]

If Laddin's busy, I'll do it.

[Mystery]

that would sound best have someone else looking at it.

Of course from the fun point of view we can still play it but it changes the game a lot, it is just so different from a normal mage wars. And this guessing on enchantments, trying to run people off dispels to get that stranglevine/astrol anchor to work... is just not possible. I think it just reduces so many possibilities. It won't be a problem to play but it does not feel like a tourney and is total casual play for me in that instance.

@ Dude: cool that you wanted no advantage, but it was not in the rules and i didn't read every single post on the 6 pages thread

[Sailor Vulcan]

that would sound best have someone else looking at it.

Of course from the fun point of view we can still play it but it changes the game a lot, it is just so different from a normal mage wars. And this guessing on enchantments, trying to run people off dispels to get that stranglevine/astrol anchor to work... is just not possible. I think it just reduces so many possibilities. It won't be a problem to play but it does not feel like a tourney and is total casual play for me in that instance.

@ Dude: cool that you wanted no advantage, but it was not in the rules and i didn't read every single post on the 6 pages thread

@Dude, I second this. You should have told us this ahead of time, in the rules. Knowing your opponent's spellbook ahead of time drastically changes things, and not necessarily in a balanced way. Not every playstyle values that knowledge equally. I suspect mages that rely more on enchantments are going to be at a distinct disadvantage. Also, I suspect this knowledge is also a boon to removal. Everyone is going to know exactly what objects they need to destroy and what they should leave alone, because they know exactly how many copies of them their opponent is running. Furthermore, my spellbook is core set x1 only and it's a warlock who relies on enchantments, and everyone knows that now, which is a double whammy against my spellbook in particular. I'm not sure how much of core set x1 only warlock's power comes from the fact that opponents don't know that I'm playing core set x1 only. What you just did could be anything from a minor inconvenience to a complete declawing of my spellbook.

[SharkBait]

Ok, seriously, everyone listen up. EVERYONE needs to chill out. It seems there has been a miscommunication. That doesn't mean attacking theDude (Sailor, your post comes off that way) is a good move. He's put his time and effort into creating a fun round-robin style tournament. Just because some people (myself included) misunderstood what he meant when he said he'd post the books (the misunderstanding seems to be in the timing of said event) doesn't mean it can't still be fun and can't be worked around. Instead of blaming theDude, let's open up a dialog here and see how we can fix the issue.

I, personally, have no problem with my opponent knowing my book ahead of time. That seems to be a minority opinion. I personally feel that it's possible to both have fun and have a competitive game in the current setup. That opens up the question though, if theDude is willing to change it to go through a neutral party, do we want to do so?

[Sailor Vulcan]

Ok, seriously, everyone listen up. EVERYONE needs to chill out. It seems there has been a miscommunication. That doesn't mean attacking theDude (Sailor, your post comes off that way) is a good move. He's put his time and effort into creating a fun round-robin style tournament. Just because some people (myself included) misunderstood what he meant when he said he'd post the books (the misunderstanding seems to be in the timing of said event) doesn't mean it can't still be fun and can't be worked around. Instead of blaming theDude, let's open up a dialog here and see how we can fix the issue.

I, personally, have no problem with my opponent knowing my book ahead of time. That seems to be a minority opinion. I personally feel that it's possible to both have fun and have a competitive game in the current setup. That opens up the question though, if theDude is willing to change it to go through a neutral party, do we want to do so?

I don't really see how that looks like an attack, since I said nothing ad hominem. I'm sorry if it was taken that way.