How does Stun work?

[Mestrahd]

With Stun, does the effected creature get to take an action? The token itself says to "remove after acting". Does that mean the same as "remove after activating" in that case? We figured out that the Daze condition DOES get an action or else it would be pretty useless.

[Sharp]

A stunned creature is Incapacitated and cannot take any actions at all (except for a Mage, who can still use actions to cast quick non-attack spells).
Even when a creature can't perform any actions due to being Stunned/Incapacitated, it still takes an Action Phase. It simply doesn't do anything during the Action Phase.
The "Remove after acting" text on the Stun marker means "Remove at the end of the creature's Action Phase."

[Mestrahd]

As a follow-up, how does Knockdown work? It is worded differently than stun. It says target is incapacitated until the beginning of their action phase or the end of the round whichever comes first. Stun says basically incapacitated until after acting. So with Knockdown do they still get to act or not?

[Sharp]

If you cast Knockdown on a creature that hasn't yet acted this round, then yes, at the beginning of its action phase it "gets up" (is no longer incapacitated) and can take its actions.
You could use Knockdown as a way of removing a guard marker on a creature, or to (temporarily) knock a flying creature out of the sky, or to keep a creature from hindering your movement. But Knockdown can be especially effective when targeting a creature that has already acted, because that creature will incapacitated and vulnerable until the end of the round.

[Shad0w]

A stunned creature is Incapacitated and cannot take any actions at all (except for a Mage, who can still use actions to cast quick non-attack spells).
Even when a creature can't perform any actions due to being Stunned/Incapacitated, it still takes an Action Phase. It simply doesn't do anything during the Action Phase.
The "Remove after acting" text on the Stun marker means "Remove at the end of the creature's Action Phase."

Good call and very well worded

[Shad0w]

If you cast Knockdown on a creature that hasn't yet acted this round, then yes, at the beginning of its action phase it "gets up" (is no longer incapacitated) and can take its actions.
You could use Knockdown as a way of removing a guard marker on a creature, or to (temporarily) knock a flying creature out of the sky, or to keep a creature from hindering your movement. But Knockdown can be especially effective when targeting a creature that has already acted, because that creature will incapacitated and vulnerable until the end of the round.

Two for Two

[Arcanus]

Sharp - those were great answers!  If you get a chance and would like to chat for a moment, please shoot me an email at bryanpope@arcanewonders.com.  Thanks!

[Phillus]

A stunned creature is Incapacitated and cannot take any actions at all (except for a Mage, who can still use actions to cast quick non-attack spells).
Even when a creature can't perform any actions due to being Stunned/Incapacitated, it still takes an Action Phase. It simply doesn't do anything during the Action Phase.
The "Remove after acting" text on the Stun marker means "Remove at the end of the creature's Action Phase."

Good call and very well worded

One more clarification: I always have a question about the mage on this topic and it is - can the mage still move or do basic-attack when incapacitated? I am asking this because of the words in the manual that states that the Incapacitates work differently on mages.

[sdougla2]

A stunned creature is Incapacitated and cannot take any actions at all (except for a Mage, who can still use actions to cast quick non-attack spells).
Even when a creature can't perform any actions due to being Stunned/Incapacitated, it still takes an Action Phase. It simply doesn't do anything during the Action Phase.
The "Remove after acting" text on the Stun marker means "Remove at the end of the creature's Action Phase."

Good call and very well worded

One more clarification: I always have a question about the mage on this topic and it is - can the mage still move or do basic-attack when incapacitated? I am asking this because of the words in the manual that states that the Incapacitates work differently on mages.

No they can only cast quick non-attack spells while incapacitated.

[Shad0w]

sdougla2 gets the clean up answer.  :lol:

[Lightseed]

what does "More voulnerable" mean? i have seen it on other tokens , like daze, target is more voulnerable etc.