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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2013, 02:12:00 PM »
I asked for help.

That is just how I have been playing with it....for the reasons I gave above.
(I think it works outside of guard, but needs it for the trait to be active.) 
ether way....intercept is such a cool trait! I love the new expansion!
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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2013, 02:14:43 PM »
Very much so, it really helps against temple builds....
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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2013, 02:31:52 PM »
I do not have time but IF I can find some time I will go over all the involved rules.  >:(
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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2013, 12:41:59 AM »
I talked to Bryan about this and the decision he made was that Restrained creatures cannot use the Intercept ability. This will be clarified in the next FAQ update.

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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2013, 01:38:41 AM »
Makes perfect sense to me! (I was using my best interpretation.)

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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2013, 12:16:49 PM »
Excellent! Thank you.
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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2013, 12:20:16 PM »
I talked to Bryan about this and the decision he made was that Restrained creatures cannot use the Intercept ability. This will be clarified in the next FAQ update.

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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2013, 12:24:53 PM »
Seems like intercept should be a function of guarding, can you intercept without being "on guard" ie having a guard marker on?  Otherwise what would stop it from attacking and still intercepting/guarding?

The only real difference I see with intercept is it is guard (that works for melee OR ranged attack).  Blocking ranged is a HUGE benefit.  So it is a better form of guard.

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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2013, 12:47:36 PM »
Like I said....I imagined the spell was being "Redirected" to the interceptor....not that the creature was "Blocking" it. So I just never thought about it! This came up a long time ago with my group, and thats just how we rules it.

This way does make more sense, so I am glad we went this way with it.
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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2013, 09:37:18 AM »
Intercept requires a Guard marker. This is already stated in the rules.

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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2013, 09:51:13 AM »
Intercept requires a Guard marker. This is already stated in the rules.

Restrained does not remove the guard marker....The creature is still guarding if it is restrained...its just that Attackers can ignore them. (Not trying to argue....Just to make it clear)

Like I said....I assumed the creature was "Absorbing the spell".

This would be the best way to show that intercept dose not work while restrained.
Rules Book Codex-Restrained- The only advantage a Restrained guard receives is the Counterstrike trait
(Which I dont think is in the 1st edition...that or I missed it. ether way, I should of checked the 2ed.)


Thanks for clearing that up Alex319. I think that was the way most of us thought it should go.  ;D
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Re: Restrained creatures with intercept
« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2013, 05:36:38 AM »
I think that this ruling is a bit of a shame. All the people protesting that you obviously couldn't intercept while restrained based it on intercept being a leap in front of the attack approach. I agree that restraining should prevent intercept in this manner.  However, a restrained guard can still cast spells, defend,  attack or back chat... Why does it seem so inconceivable that they couldn't do something that distracts or interrupts a ranged attack?  Throw that munty big shield for one? Or a stick from the tangle vine?  A clump of dirt etc? Someone suggested a magical intercept/attract attack effect, but it doesn't even need to be that complex.  There is no real spatial positioning in a zone,  so while I accept that an attacker could just walk around a guard to get to another creature, it seems just as conceivable that a restrained guard with intercept is still able to block some part of the line of sight from a ranged attack coming from a distance...

Anyway,  just my 5 cents,  basically I think it's just as thematic to allow it as it is to prevent it while still allowing any other non move based action...