flying question vampiress and hinder.

[Matt.dog]

Hi, I've done a few searches on vampiress and flying, and can't find distinct clarification.  I tend to favor the wordings in the rulebook, although it wouldn't typically make a horrendous difference in gameplay in most situations.

Vampiress in a zone with another ground unit. Hinder rule states if a creature starts in a zone or enters a zone where an enemy creature is then it becomes hindered and can only move 1 space that turn even if it's fast.  Inside the rules it's stated that fliers ignore ground units and vice versa.

So even though the vampiress starts zone on ground and would technically be hindered.  Giving her flying at the beginning of her action phase can't alleviate this I'm assuming, or does the rules around her or revealing a flying enchantment evade the hinderance and she could move 2 that turn. Logically I would think it wouldn't hinder her, but the way the rules are stated it does.

thanks guys

[Wildhorn]

Hinder says at the beginning of a creature Action Phase.
Well, the vampiress card say when you activate it (which is what start its Action Phase).

So both happens pretty much at the sametime. We don't play often Vampiress in my meta and this case of figure never happened I think. But I would guess she is not hindered since she gain Flying at the sametime its Action Phase start.

[sIKE]

Once she gains the Flying trait, she would follow the rules that apply to that of a flying creature. Its a kinda of magic...

[baronzaltor]

Im memory serves, the ruling was that if you pay the mana for her ability during her activation, she "starts" with the Flying trait and trumps hindering.  I might be mis-remembering though, but I'm fairly certain thats how it plays out.

[jacksmack]

Its answered in the FAQ:

Vamp will not be hindered by non-flying units if the owner chooses to pay 1 mana to make it flying.

(flyers still hinders flyers)

[Zuberi]

To add a little to what Jacksmack said, I would recommend reading the Hindering rules in the FAQ on page 10. That should cover everything you need to know regarding this issue. You could also look at Necropian Vampiress on page 43, but that basically just repeats a small portion of the info given on page 10.

Basically, Hinderance is something that occurs when the creature moves that prevents them from moving a second time. That's the key thing to keep in mind for this question, I believe. You don't check for Hinderance until you actually move. It is certainly possible to prevent Hinderance from occurring with any creature you wish to move. Such as, by gaining Flying, by gaining Elusive, or by Restraining an opposing creature before you take your move action. As long as you take care of it before you move, then it is fine.

[Shad0w]

@Zuberi
Thanks

[Matt.dog]

Hi. Thanks for the replies.  I was checking the faq section of the forums in rules discussion. I looked for an hour.  I'm assuming by naming pg 10 there is some kind of downloadable pdf file our something that I'm not aware of?

[Moonglow]

Try here: http://www.arcanewonders.com/resources-and-downloads

[Zuberi]

It's technical name is "The Official Mage Wars Rules Supplement" and you can find it on the Resources and Downloads page that Moonglow provided the link for.