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Title: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on August 23, 2015, 10:21:55 AM
Behold! My custom maps!

All of the custom maps I've made so far are in the zip folder below.


Notes

-In Warped Zone, secret passages in opposite corners are friendly, and secret passages in adjacent corners are enemy. You cannot use an enemy secret passage.

-the Leylines of Legend maps are for a variant of Domination called "Orb Collection" whose rules can be found here:
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=15890.0
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on August 23, 2015, 10:27:04 AM
And here are my Domination maps. These two are played according to the rules of orb collector's domination using both of the optional rules. If it wasn't clear, with these two maps that means the objective is to take the enemy's orb.

http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=15890.0
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Coshade on August 25, 2015, 02:20:38 PM
The more 2vs2 maps we have the better! If you have any ideas for 3 for alls that would be sweet too. Nice work man
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on October 17, 2015, 07:21:42 PM
Here's a boss battle map for single player play. Also, I fixed Truce at Straywood so that it's balanced now. No more stupid wall cheese. Have fun with your 2v2 Domination matches!
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: sIKE on October 17, 2015, 07:49:22 PM
Adding those two corners in to the map really help resolve the Wall Cheese of Coshade's :) I am not sure if I agree with the special tile choices though. But I am not sure of what two I would put there, in their place.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Halewijn on October 18, 2015, 04:49:51 AM
some very neath maps  8)
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on October 18, 2015, 08:31:31 AM
Adding those two corners in to the map really help resolve the Wall Cheese of Coshade's :) I am not sure if I agree with the special tile choices though. But I am not sure of what two I would put there, in their place.

Hmm. I'm not entirely certain either. I mean, it's probably a good idea to put something there to hinder enemies. If I put ethereal mist or septagram there, it would give an advantage to having one mage on a team turtle so they can amass resources in a relatively safe position, and the other to go forth and collect orbs and gain v'tar, or hamper enemies from getting orbs and v'tar. Ethereal Mist or Septagram in those corners might still be a viable option, since as far as I know the earth wizard is otherwise the only one who can run a defensive playstyle in domination. But I'm not entirely certain of that. I'm actually somewhat disappointed that Arcane Wonders seems to have overlooked defensive play in domination. It is possible, I have used a wizard that only needs one orb and a galaxxus for his v'tar accumulation each round, and won with it too...
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: wtcannonjr on October 18, 2015, 06:12:40 PM
What do you mean by AW seems to have overlooked defensive play in Domination?

It seems to me defensive play styles are stronger than in regular arena mode.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on October 18, 2015, 08:21:09 PM
Aggro and Control are different in domination than regular arena. In fact, all of the playstyles are kind of different in domination:

Domination Swarm: get control of as many orbs as possible so you're gaining a lot of v'tar per round. (long game aggro)

Domination (not sure what to call this): Kill as many enemy creatures as you can, so that you can start taking orbs easily once the board is clear. (long game aggro-control, in the same way as Johktari BM plays in standard arena.)

Domination Turtling: get control of only one orb plus a galaxxus and minimize your opponent's v'tar acccumulation by protecting sslaks or otherwise stopping enemy creatures from attacking them effectively. This way you are only gaining 1 or 2 v'tar per round. (midgame control using few to no nonmage creatures.)


Domination Buddy Rush: summon a buddy creature and start killing the nearest sslak as soon as possible to take it's orb, then move onto the next one. Get an early v'tar lead as fast as possible and keep that lead. Should use galaxxus here. You don't necessarily need to control all the orbs, just enough to have more orbs than your opponent. (early game aggro using one nonmage creature)

When I said control had been overlooked, I meant specifically playstyles that win with a slow v'tar accumulation by minimizing the v'tar accumulation of the oppponent. It seems like Arcane Wonders just overlooked this kind of thing. It seems like there's barely any card support for it.

In fact, it seems like a surprising number of people seem to believe that swarming is the only good way to play domination. The impression I've gotten is that a lot of people haven't even tried buddy rushing for domination victory and even seem to think that it's not possible, and it's even worse for turtling.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: wtcannonjr on October 19, 2015, 06:12:18 AM
Aggro and Control are different in domination than regular arena. In fact, all of the playstyles are kind of different in domination:

Domination Swarm: get control of as many orbs as possible so you're gaining a lot of v'tar per round. (long game aggro)

Domination (not sure what to call this): Kill as many enemy creatures as you can, so that you can start taking orbs easily once the board is clear. (long game aggro-control, in the same way as Johktari BM plays in standard arena.)

Domination Turtling: get control of only one orb plus a galaxxus and minimize your opponent's v'tar acccumulation by protecting sslaks or otherwise stopping enemy creatures from attacking them effectively. This way you are only gaining 1 or 2 v'tar per round. (midgame control using few to no nonmage creatures.)


Domination Buddy Rush: summon a buddy creature and start killing the nearest sslak as soon as possible to take it's orb, then move onto the next one. Get an early v'tar lead as fast as possible and keep that lead. Should use galaxxus here. You don't necessarily need to control all the orbs, just enough to have more orbs than your opponent. (early game aggro using one nonmage creature)

When I said control had been overlooked, I meant specifically playstyles that win with a slow v'tar accumulation by minimizing the v'tar accumulation of the oppponent. It seems like Arcane Wonders just overlooked this kind of thing. It seems like there's barely any card support for it.

In fact, it seems like a surprising number of people seem to believe that swarming is the only good way to play domination. The impression I've gotten is that a lot of people haven't even tried buddy rushing for domination victory and even seem to think that it's not possible, and it's even worse for turtling.

Thanks for clarifying. I didn't equate control and defensive play as the same thing. Now I get your point.

However, I disagree. It seems to me both the Forcemaster and Warlord are given strong spells to play the control game. Consider the new Force Wall and Gravitor spells. Our warlords already play multiple wall strategies and having the ability to block flyers makes these stronger. There was even an Arcane Duels video using Earth Wizard in team play to illustrate a control strategy.

Maybe it is just your local meta that is not using it.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on October 19, 2015, 07:31:16 AM
Aggro and Control are different in domination than regular arena. In fact, all of the playstyles are kind of different in domination:

Domination Swarm: get control of as many orbs as possible so you're gaining a lot of v'tar per round. (long game aggro)

Domination (not sure what to call this): Kill as many enemy creatures as you can, so that you can start taking orbs easily once the board is clear. (long game aggro-control, in the same way as Johktari BM plays in standard arena.)

Domination Turtling: get control of only one orb plus a galaxxus and minimize your opponent's v'tar acccumulation by protecting sslaks or otherwise stopping enemy creatures from attacking them effectively. This way you are only gaining 1 or 2 v'tar per round. (midgame control using few to no nonmage creatures.)


Domination Buddy Rush: summon a buddy creature and start killing the nearest sslak as soon as possible to take it's orb, then move onto the next one. Get an early v'tar lead as fast as possible and keep that lead. Should use galaxxus here. You don't necessarily need to control all the orbs, just enough to have more orbs than your opponent. (early game aggro using one nonmage creature)

When I said control had been overlooked, I meant specifically playstyles that win with a slow v'tar accumulation by minimizing the v'tar accumulation of the oppponent. It seems like Arcane Wonders just overlooked this kind of thing. It seems like there's barely any card support for it.

In fact, it seems like a surprising number of people seem to believe that swarming is the only good way to play domination. The impression I've gotten is that a lot of people haven't even tried buddy rushing for domination victory and even seem to think that it's not possible, and it's even worse for turtling.

Thanks for clarifying. I didn't equate control and defensive play as the same thing. Now I get your point.

However, I disagree. It seems to me both the Forcemaster and Warlord are given strong spells to play the control game. Consider the new Force Wall and Gravitor spells. Our warlords already play multiple wall strategies and having the ability to block flyers makes these stronger. There was even an Arcane Duels video using Earth Wizard in team play to illustrate a control strategy.

Maybe it is just your local meta that is not using it.

Hmm. Perhaps I underestimated walls+gravikor. I'm so used to my walls not lasting very long even at the global metagame, compared to my enchantments. Maybe it's time to bust out walls of steel. Costs 18 mana to cast and extend one of those, and it has 4 armor and 13 life. It's weak to acid and lightning, but acid ball can only do max 2 corrodes at a time no matter how much is added to the roll. An Anvil Throne Warlord with Otto Kronig will be nice for this.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: wtcannonjr on October 19, 2015, 08:44:53 PM
Construction yard and Altar of Carnage can help pay for heavy wall builds.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on December 10, 2015, 09:30:09 AM
Update! Learned how to compress a folder. Take that, 4-attachment per post limit! Now all of my custom maps are in one folder that you can download from the OP. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: iNano78 on January 03, 2016, 09:11:15 PM
I downloaded your map .TXT files.  You've obviously put in some significant work here, and for that I applaud and thank you.

Perhaps I missed it (posted somewhere else perhaps?) but can you please provide (or link) a legend to which tiles are which?

e.g. for Truce at Straywood:

***6..
.82...
...54.
..6***

I assume a "*" is the absence of a tile and a "." is a generic tile.  But which ones are #1-8?
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: sIKE on January 03, 2016, 10:52:39 PM
In OCTGN start a game up. Once you see the game board, at the top of the Screen you will see Game Documents. Click on it, the click on "How to build your own Domination Map". It covers the process and what each number means.

Let me know if you have any questions!
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: iNano78 on January 04, 2016, 11:08:14 AM
In OCTGN start a game up. Once you see the game board, at the top of the Screen you will see Game Documents. Click on it, the click on "How to build your own Domination Map". It covers the process and what each number means.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Could those of us who don't use OCTGN get a text-based legend so we can try these maps in real life?
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on January 04, 2016, 11:10:55 AM

In OCTGN start a game up. Once you see the game board, at the top of the Screen you will see Game Documents. Click on it, the click on "How to build your own Domination Map". It covers the process and what each number means.

Let me know if you have any questions!

Could those of us who don't use OCTGN get a text-based legend so we can try these maps in real life?

I second this. It would make a good shorthand for custom maps that people build in real life as well as on octgn, rather than having to completely rely on photographs and screenshots all the time.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: sIKE on January 04, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
There is the print button.....
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: iNano78 on January 04, 2016, 01:21:54 PM
There is the print button.....

Print button doesn't work on my mobile device.  And can't install/play OCTGN on my work PC for reasons. 

(Haven't tried OCTGN on my mobile device, but I assume it doesn't work (?))
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: sIKE on January 04, 2016, 01:26:02 PM
I am not sure of how I can help you. The "How to build your own Domination Map" is an html file located on your file system.

When you say text based are you meaning a file in the text format with a text file extension?
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on January 04, 2016, 01:29:01 PM

There is the print button.....

Print button doesn't work on my mobile device.  And can't install/play OCTGN on my work PC for reasons. 

(Haven't tried OCTGN on my mobile device, but I assume it doesn't work (?))

There's an android version of octgn.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: sIKE on January 04, 2016, 01:35:31 PM

There is the print button.....

Print button doesn't work on my mobile device.  And can't install/play OCTGN on my work PC for reasons. 

(Haven't tried OCTGN on my mobile device, but I assume it doesn't work (?))

There's an android version of octgn.
You can only see the game lobby though the app.....not play the game.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: iNano78 on January 04, 2016, 03:07:36 PM
I am not sure of how I can help you. The "How to build your own Domination Map" is an html file located on your file system.

When you say text based are you meaning a file in the text format with a text file extension?

I don't have OCTGN installed on any device (e.g. iPhone) or PC (e.g. from work without Admin privileges, not to mention ethics issues).  I don't intend to buy another PC so I can play Mage Wars on OCTGN and/or read the .html file in the OCTGN file system.  Is this .html file online somewhere so I can view it in browser?  Or can someone copy & paste the text of that .html file, which would be in an OCTGN player's file system, to a forum post?  All I want is to read the relationship between tile numbers and which tiles they represent.  I can read Sailor Vulcan's .txt files just fine and understand how they represent the arena geography.  I just don't know which tiles are which (aside from generic ones).  Thanks.
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: sIKE on January 04, 2016, 03:57:43 PM
1 - V'Torrak
2 - Corrosive Pool
3 - Altar of Oblivion
4 - Septagram
5 - Molten Rock
6 - Spiked Pit
7 - Samandriel's Circle
8 - Ethereal Mist
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: iNano78 on January 04, 2016, 04:07:32 PM
1 - V'Torrak
2 - Corrosive Pool
3 - Altar of Oblivion
4 - Septagram
5 - Molten Rock
6 - Spiked Pit
7 - Samandriel's Circle
8 - Ethereal Mist

Excellent.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: exid on January 05, 2016, 01:19:58 AM
thanks!
Title: Re: Behold! My Custom Maps!
Post by: Erebus on January 07, 2016, 01:46:22 AM
Thanks for sharing these! I've been dying to play a 2v2 since I got the game, and another format of Truce at Straywood will be perfect.