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Mage Wars => Spellbook Design and Construction => Topic started by: echephron on June 29, 2014, 09:28:51 PM
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I havent seen many spellbooks posted on here lately so I will throw something up. The point is discussion and tactics rather than optimization (no, I don't want 3 teleports). I don't tend to use the same spellbook too often. In fact I only used this book once April 04, 2014 7pm, but I liked it. I talked about it in a post about using bows, and here it is:
[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]DruidPushBowTangle[/spellbookname]
[mage]Druid[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]6 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]1 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1w04]2 x Wall of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ03]1 x Etherian Lifetree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j15]1 x Mohktari, Great Tree of Life[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j22]3 x Tanglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ10]2 x Stranglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ12]1 x Vine Tree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ02]2 x Corrosive Orchid[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNW01]4 x Bloodspine Wall[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j13]2 x Mana Flower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ06]1 x Nightshade Lotus[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNC16]1 x Spitting Raptor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC21]3 x Thornlasher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC09]1 x Giant Wolf Spider[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC03]1 x Galador, Protector of Straywood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC20]2 x Vine Snapper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC18]1 x Togorah, Forest Sentinel[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1e10]1 x Decoy[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e36]2 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e38]1 x Teleport Trap[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e31]2 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e21]3 x Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e17]1 x Force Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e07]1 x Cobra Reflexes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e37]1 x Sacred Ground[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e13]1 x Eagle Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e04]1 x Chains of Agony[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNE01]1 x Barkskin[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ02]3 x Hunting Bow[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNI02]2 x Burst of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i12]3 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i07]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
Strategy:
So the first few turns look like this:
I vinetree my starting corner, go to nearcentre(NC) by turn 2 and camp out. I get a hunting bow, hawkeye, and galador. I might treebond a mohtari tree in NC as well. Assuming the enemy doesn't camp in his starting corner, I stay in NC.
My mage basically does this every turn: Hunting bow the mage, surging wave the mage. I try to hit at range with galador to give my bow a chance to bleed. NC is vulnerable to area fire damage, but hopefully they will be slammed so they wont want to risk a missed [mwcard=MW1A05] Firestorm[/mwcard].
My vine tree sets up obstacles to inhibit the enemy creatures: tangle, strangle, vine markers, thornlashers in 2-3 zones adjacent to NC(to pull creatures off my druid), bloodspine walls esp between thornlashers and NC
Card Choice:
Yes, Togorah might be better off being a [mwcard=MWSTX1CKC06] Guardian Angel[/mwcard], but I wanted a more Plant-based book. It was hard enough to justify galador and the raptor. Yes the spider is likely just a waste of mana, but I wuv him. I have 3 hunting bows because without a bow, my druid is useless. [mwcard=MW1Q13] Ivarium Longbow[/mwcard] costs too many spellpoints.
Possible card swaps:
[mwcard=MW1Q31] Staff of the Arcanum[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC06] Guardian Angel[/mwcard]
more tangle, less strangle
seedling pods so that my vine tree has something to cast every turn
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Instead of 3 hunting bows you could use some nullifys
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Yeah, take out two bows, add two nullifies. it would free up a lot of points. I doubt a Mage with a standard 3 dissolves would waste all of them on a single piece.
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Looks promising! I think I'll try something like that next time I play. :)
If you plan on staying in your zone, I would recommend [mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard] in order to avoid being pushed through your own Bloodspine Walls. Occasional Nullification (as suggested by barriecritzer and Sand Goblin) might do the job as well.
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PS, I did have the eagleclaw boots. I can also get my spider to stuck me and then never try to escape it.
updated book! I added nullify, rust, akiros favor and kept my 3 bows because i'm paranoid.
[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]DruidPushBowTangle3[/spellbookname]
[mage]Druid[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]6 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]1 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNJ03]1 x Etherian Lifetree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j15]1 x Mohktari, Great Tree of Life[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j22]3 x Tanglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ10]2 x Stranglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ12]1 x Vine Tree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ02]2 x Corrosive Orchid[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNW01]4 x Bloodspine Wall[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1w04]2 x Wall of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ06]1 x Nightshade Lotus[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC03]1 x Galador, Protector of Straywood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC20]2 x Vine Snapper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC18]1 x Togorah, Forest Sentinel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC21]3 x Thornlasher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC09]1 x Giant Wolf Spider[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1e36]2 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e31]2 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e17]1 x Force Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e07]1 x Cobra Reflexes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e37]1 x Sacred Ground[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e13]1 x Eagle Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e04]1 x Chains of Agony[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNE01]1 x Barkskin[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e10]1 x Decoy[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE07]1 x Rust[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e21]2 x Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ02]3 x Hunting Bow[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i12]3 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i07]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI02]2 x Burst of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i24]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
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Shouldn't you run more than 1 animal in a build that is based around Hunting Bow?
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Nobody casts a 11 mana dissolve if you have a potential nullify on you.
Copies of bow cannot be recplaced by nullifies.
I'd go for 1 or 2 bows regardless.
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I'm gonna go against the pack and say that backup equipment is much stronger than singleton equip + nullify. Nullify is very easy to bait, and can be stripped for 0 mana with purify. I'd keep at least two copies of the bow.
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Cool, you have built a very similar build as I have.
I did focus on the Giant Wolf Spider though. They are a nice combo with Tngelvine and Strangelvine.
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2 of an equipment yes 3 is overkill
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2 of an equipment yes 3 is overkill
Not when it is your main strategy.
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I agree: What is he going to do without the bow - I'd go even further and add another Galador (or other ranged animal creatures if there are any...)
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Spitting Raptor is a ranged animal.
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So I hate [mwcard=DNC16] Spitting Raptor[/mwcard] right now(i dont need the corrode, low hp, beefy melee attack i will never use) and I grabbed a minor heal for galador rather than getting another animal for my bow. The animal for my bow is more of a perk than a requirement. I threw in another rust because I'd like more curse options so they don't seeking dispel all my poisoned bloods(so I can stack bleeds w/ bow, walls, and thorn burst). Akiro's Favor is either for my bleed on the bow or stuck on my spider. I'd have another if it didnt cost 3 spellpoints. I removed sacred ground because I couldnt find a copy and 4 spellpoints is expensive for something will likely just mitigate one attack before being dispelled.
I have a tournament on friday and i'm going to use some variation of this book. still keeping the 3 bows.
[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]DruidPushBowTangle4[/spellbookname]
[mage]Druid[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]6 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]1 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNJ06]1 x Nightshade Lotus[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j15]1 x Mohktari, Great Tree of Life[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ10]2 x Stranglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ12]1 x Vine Tree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ02]2 x Corrosive Orchid[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNW01]4 x Bloodspine Wall[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ03]1 x Etherian Lifetree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j22]3 x Tanglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1w04]2 x Wall of Thorns[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC03]1 x Galador, Protector of Straywood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC20]2 x Vine Snapper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC18]1 x Togorah, Forest Sentinel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC21]3 x Thornlasher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC09]1 x Giant Wolf Spider[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1e36]2 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e31]2 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e17]1 x Force Orb[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e07]1 x Cobra Reflexes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e13]1 x Eagle Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e04]1 x Chains of Agony[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNE01]1 x Barkskin[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e10]1 x Decoy[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE07]2 x Rust[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e21]2 x Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ02]3 x Hunting Bow[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i12]3 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i07]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI02]2 x Burst of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i24]1 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i23]1 x Rouse the Beast[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i17]1 x Minor Heal[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
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So, any luck?
I am toying with a battle druid my self right now so any kind of experience from other side would be welcomed :)
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i only played it once against a forcemaster who didnt have a gameplan. i didnt throw down walls, dispelled the annoying stuff, and galador was fine. needs more testing