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Title: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Tim on December 08, 2013, 03:14:42 PM
Can creatures with rooted/uproot gain the flying trait?
For example: can raptor vine (uproot 1) gain the flying trait with eagle wings?

Grtz
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: baronzaltor on December 08, 2013, 03:17:22 PM
Rooted creatures loose and cannot gain flying.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Lord0fWinter on December 08, 2013, 03:19:21 PM
Rooted creatures loose and cannot gain flying.

This. Straight from the codex.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: sIKE on December 08, 2013, 03:33:28 PM
I think the question is:

If a creature with the Rooted trait also has the Uproot trait, and if the mana were paid to Uproot it and if there were already an attached hidden enchantment, that was reveal after the creature was uprooted but before the end of its action phase, could it gain the Flying trait?

Uproot X (Object Trait)
This creature can uproot itself from the ground and move freely. When this creature is activated, you may pay X mana. If you do, it loses the Rooted trait until the end of its Action Phase.

The way I read this trait the answer is yes, now intent that is something totally different...
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: baronzaltor on December 08, 2013, 03:38:37 PM
I believe he would fly while uprooted.  He would just lose the trait every time he was re-rooted.

Just like a creature with flying being moved in and out of a zone effected by Gravikor.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Kharhaz on December 08, 2013, 03:55:40 PM
I believe he would fly while uprooted.  He would just lose the trait every time he was re-rooted.

Just like a creature with flying being moved in and out of a zone effected by Gravikor.

Yes
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Zuberi on December 08, 2013, 08:11:26 PM
Quote from: baronzaltor
I believe he would fly while uprooted.  He would just lose the trait every time he was re-rooted.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: sIKE on December 08, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
I also assume as long as he has the Flying, he will not regain the Rooted trait.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: baronzaltor on December 08, 2013, 08:19:56 PM
I also assume as long as he has the Flying, he will not regain the Rooted trait.

Flying does not prevent regaining Rooted.. so he would regain Root, then being Rooted would remove his flight.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Zuberi on December 08, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: baronzaltor
Flying does not prevent regaining Rooted.. so he would regain Root, then being Rooted would remove his flight.

Still in agreement.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: sIKE on December 08, 2013, 08:33:14 PM
Interesting, I see why you would go that way. It doesn't make since one way but it does the other way.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: ringkichard on December 08, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
With God as my witness, I thought sequoians could fly
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: sIKE on December 08, 2013, 09:40:48 PM
Is that from a lost writing of Amadseer?
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: aquestrion on December 08, 2013, 11:43:53 PM
Uproot makes rooted void until end of action phase then it regains the rooted ability. Uproot effect is what allows it to fly and uproot also makes it regain rooted. Flying has nothing to do with those 2 traits.

Bleed and bloodthirsty are also like this
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Laddinfance on December 10, 2013, 12:06:27 AM
With God as my witness, I thought sequoians could fly

From the lost writings of a "radio" outpost far to the south of O-Hi-o. Mages are still deciphering it's meaning, but evidently they've picked out four letters, W, K, R, and P.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Shad0w on December 10, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
Sike is correct

Uproot X (Object Trait)
This creature can uproot itself from the ground and move freely. When this creature is activated, you may pay X mana. If you do, it loses the Rooted trait until the end of its Action Phase.


Because of the fact the creature loses root it get to "jump up" till the end of its action phase. At end of action it lands again


Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: sIKE on December 10, 2013, 05:23:12 PM
Sike is correct

Uproot X (Object Trait)
This creature can uproot itself from the ground and move freely. When this creature is activated, you may pay X mana. If you do, it loses the Rooted trait until the end of its Action Phase.


Because of the fact the creature loses root it get to "jump up" till the end of its action phase. At end of action it lands again
Ok I can visualize that mechanic :) I was having a problem separating the mechanic from what I saw happening.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Taruslar on December 12, 2013, 05:22:28 PM
So, if i understood it right. If a creature with uproot have eagle wings, it wont get rooted again if i reveal eagle wings after i payed the uproot cost?
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: aquestrion on December 12, 2013, 05:26:58 PM
No it gets rerooted
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Kharhaz on December 12, 2013, 05:52:27 PM
So, if i understood it right. If a creature with uproot have eagle wings, it wont get rooted again if i reveal eagle wings after i payed the uproot cost?

When the rooted trait is applied, the creature loses and cannot gain flying.

When you activate the uproot cost, the rooted trait is removed (and the flying restriction with it).

At the end of the activation the rooted trait is reapplied, along with the flying restriction.
Title: Re: Flying rooted/uprood?
Post by: Shad0w on December 13, 2013, 09:40:24 AM
So, if i understood it right. If a creature with uproot have eagle wings, it wont get rooted again if i reveal eagle wings after i payed the uproot cost?

When the rooted trait is applied, the creature loses and cannot gain flying.

When you activate the uproot cost, the rooted trait is removed (and the flying restriction with it).

At the end of the activation the rooted trait is reapplied, along with the flying restriction.
 

100% correct