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Mage Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: fas723 on August 23, 2015, 03:38:58 PM
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I have noticed in various videos, mainly from Arcane Duels (awesome job guys!), that there is a very American pronunciation of Slavörg.
I don't know if he is a well famous fantasy creature out there already, but since he got a special character in his name which only can be found in the Scandinavian countries (and actually in Turkey as well) I, as a Swede, will try to make things correct. :)
There are three parts in the name that needs a bit of explanation:
1. a
2. ö (which actually is only found in Swedish since this: "ø" is the letter in Norway and Denmark)
3. g
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The "a" should be a long vowel. Like in the British-english tomato.
2.
The hardest part. :)
"Ö" is a character with a sound you can find in the end of the english word "saboteur".
https://translate.google.se/#sv/en/sabot%C3%B6r (https://translate.google.se/#sv/en/sabot%C3%B6r)
Click the speaker button to here it.
Here you can also see the the Swedish word uses "ö" in it.
The word for "Island" in Swedish is actually "Ö". So here is it in its pure form:
https://translate.google.se/#en/sv/island (https://translate.google.se/#en/sv/island)
Click the speaker button again.
3.
The "g" is not as in George, which to me sound more like an "j".
It is a "g" rather like in "guantanamo" (sorry, couldn't find a better example)
There we go. No more Slavv-jo-rg or Slav-o-rj, but Slavörg.
Hope you agree and find it interesting. :)
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2. ö (which actually is only found in Swedish since this: "ø" is the letter in Norway and Denmark)
Ahem. There is another country with ö. And while not Scandinavian, it's certainly Nordic.
And Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Estonian_and_Finnish) informs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_front_rounded_vowel) us that there is "no English equivalent; somewhat like bird."
;D
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2. ö (which actually is only found in Swedish since this: "ø" is the letter in Norway and Denmark)
Ahem. There is another country with ö. And while not Scandinavian, it's certainly Nordic.
And Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Estonian_and_Finnish) informs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_front_rounded_vowel) us that there is "no English equivalent; somewhat like bird."
;D
The Germans call them Umlauts..
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2. ö (which actually is only found in Swedish since this: "ø" is the letter in Norway and Denmark)
Ahem. There is another country with ö. And while not Scandinavian, it's certainly Nordic.
And Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Estonian_and_Finnish) informs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_front_rounded_vowel) us that there is "no English equivalent; somewhat like bird."
;D
Ah, you are correct. It's late over here and I must have had a brain freeze. Sorry.
Anyhow, the way "ö" is pronounced is still the same anywhere. :)
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Fas723,
This is awesome! Seriously, my pronunciations are a little (very) bad, so I appreciate this!
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2. ö (which actually is only found in Swedish since this: "ø" is the letter in Norway and Denmark)
Ahem. There is another country with ö. And while not Scandinavian, it's certainly Nordic.
And Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA_for_Estonian_and_Finnish) informs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid_front_rounded_vowel) us that there is "no English equivalent; somewhat like bird."
;D
The Germans call them Umlauts..
As sIKE already mentioned ä ö and ü are Umlaute in Germany. Besides this, I totally agree with fas723 pronunciation. I was looking for that latters for written pronunciatio (found out its called IPA), but it seems like Slavörg is more or less written as spoken.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet
I would write this that way: [sla:vørg]
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I have a vague memory from when I studdy German that the Umlauts weren't a part of the proper alphabet, but some kind of add-on. Maybe someone can correct my memory if it is wrong. 8)
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Fas723,
This is awesome! Seriously, my pronunciations are a little (very) bad, so I appreciate this!
I expect you to do better the next time he comes up in one of your videos! ;D
It would at least be fun to hear you try. 8)
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Next time I say his name on video I'm going to pause before and after the pronunciation. That apprehensive silence will be just for this forum thread. In that silence, you may judge me. ;D
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hahaha :D
How about you try and pronounce it next time?
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Next time I say his name on video I'm going to pause before and after the pronunciation. That apprehensive silence will be just for this forum thread. In that silence, you may judge me. ;D
Next time, you should do a dramatic pause before and after, then have your editor dub in a computerized "speak & spell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speak_%26_Spell_%28toy%29)" voice over it.
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Okay, but now he gets to complain at you this time for giving him more work, lol.
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I have a vague memory from when I studdy German that the Umlauts weren't a part of the proper alphabet, but some kind of add-on. Maybe someone can correct my memory if it is wrong. 8)
English doesen't know this sort of signs we add on letters in french too (é è à ê ë ç...)
it's not part of the alphabet but it's definitvely part of the signs we use to write!
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I have a vague memory from when I studdy German that the Umlauts weren't a part of the proper alphabet, but some kind of add-on. Maybe someone can correct my memory if it is wrong. 8)
Well, that's true. Our alphabet goes from A to Z, like the english one. But we do have 4 more letters: The beforementioned Umlaute ä, ö, ü and our ß.
ä, ö and ü are variations of a, o and u, you get them by adding an e to the letter. So instead of writing ae, you use ä. In crossword puzzles it goes the other way, if the answer is Öl (oil), you spell it Oel.
And we have our ß. It's called SZ or sharp s. We use it instead of ss sometimes. (In my opinion ß is totally useless and should be replaced by ss in any word.)
Fun Fact: ß is the only german letter that doesn't have a capital form. When using capslock on the internet, you have to replace it by ss or the word looks really silly. FUß or FUSS? Both are feet, but I don't like the way one of them looks.
Our keyboards use Shift + ß for the question mark. Did you knowß
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Oh, how i wish some creatures was named using my language :D
We have 42 letters in our Alphabet :)
Problem is, when you look at translated words from scifi or fantasy, they didnt sound that cool and sometimes they sound unapropriet.
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Oh, how i wish some creatures was named using my language :D
We have 42 letters in our Alphabet :)
Problem is, when you look at translated words from scifi or fantasy, they didnt sound that cool and sometimes they sound unapropriet.
Where are you from? Or what's the language?
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Go ask the loremaster if there's an appropriate Etherian equivalent culture!
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Oh, how i wish some creatures was named using my language :D
We have 42 letters in our Alphabet :)
Problem is, when you look at translated words from scifi or fantasy, they didnt sound that cool and sometimes they sound unapropriet.
Where are you from? Or what's the language?
Czech republic - Czech language - we have " ˇ " and " ´ " above some letters. á,é,č,ě, etc. also we have ů and ú. Its easier to learn and speak klingon then czech :)
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Czech republic - Czech language - we have " ˇ " and " ´ " above some letters. á,é,č,ě, etc. also we have ů and ú. Its easier to learn and speak klingon then czech :)
yIDoghQo!
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Oh, how i wish some creatures was named using my language :D
No thanks!
Arcane Wonder's attempts at using German names for cards have been rather painful (Dwarf Kriegsbiel, I'm looking at you!). Reserve that for the localized versions of the games.
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In french, we also use ö, we have it for all the vowel too.
In french, the 2 little dots are named "traimats" and it make you stop right before the letter with them than continue.
So it would be pronounced Slav-(hard stop here)-org
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In french, we also use ö, we have it for all the vowel too.
In french, the 2 little dots are named "traimats" and it make you stop right before the letter with them than continue.
So it would be pronounced Slav-(hard stop here)-org
Hmm. I thought using it that way was restricted to words with two consecutive vowels, e.g. Citroën.
It's required in such cases, because otherwise you might pronounce it like an umlaut, i.e. Citrön.
I've even seen it used that way in English, e.g. in the word coöperation.
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I see you read the Newyorker!
(They're often gently mocked because their house editorial style spells co-operation that way.)
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In french, we also use ö, we have it for all the vowel too.
In french, the 2 little dots are named "traimats" and it make you stop right before the letter with them than continue.
So it would be pronounced Slav-(hard stop here)-org
Hmm. I thought using it that way was restricted to words with two consecutive vowels, e.g. Citroën.
It's required in such cases, because otherwise you might pronounce it like an umlaut, i.e. Citrön.
I've even seen it used that way in English, e.g. in the word coöperation.
Damn people who knows more about my own language :P