Second Chance and Ring of Asyra interaction

[DaveW]

Since the reveal cost of Second Chance is zero, would the discount from a Ring of Asyra apply to the recasting cost of the Creature?

In other words, and more generally... should additional costs not included in the casting bar at the top of a card be able to be discounted from such a ring?

In other other words... is the casting cost of the spell inclusive of any "additional" costs to cast the spell from other sources and/or text on that or other spells?

[jacksmack]

reveal cost of second chance is not 0.

The reveal cost is X and X = the casting cost of the creature.

Assuming its above 0 then you do the get discount of 1 mana.

[jacksmack]

On another note:
With the ruling of Purify that it actually costs 0 mana to cast, means you wont get any discount even though you later (when resolving the spell) is paying to remove poison conditions and/or enchantments.

[DaveW]

On another note:
With the ruling of Purify that it actually costs 0 mana to cast, means you wont get any discount even though you later (when resolving the spell) is paying to remove poison conditions and/or enchantments.

That seems inconsistent with the first note. Isn't the cost to cast Purify equal to the removal costs, just as much as the reveal cost of Second Chance includes the Creature recasting cost?

[jacksmack]

Problem with purify is that X is never defined in the text.

Also do note the 'Then' - that says its not a one time cost for this spell removing both enchantemtns and conditions.

Anyway.. the point is... purify is a mess and it has recieved a ruling that the casting cost is = 0.
This means you cannot get discount on it.

[Zuberi]

The relevant ruling can currently be found in the Lost Grimoire rulebook. It hasn't yet been added to the supplement.

X Mana Cost Spells
The value of X in X mana cost spells is determined by that spell's text. In the case of spells like Dispel and Dissolve, this value is determined when the spell is cast. In other spells such as Purify and Clear Mind, this cost is calculated after the spell resolves.

[DaveW]

Thanks. I guess I better get Lost Grimoire....

[Coshade]

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