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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2017, 08:01:32 PM »
Just wanted to thank Exid for pointing this out. I agree with Zuberi that this is a rules intended vs rules as written problem. After speaking with Ash, it is clear that E4E should work in a similar way to Damage Barriers and Counter strikes for removing end action markers. I asked for it to be added to the next iteration of the supplement for clarification. Also I am awarding Exid a Banana sticker for pointing this out.
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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2017, 12:27:19 AM »
Hey! a banana for making the problem less clear! thanks!

and thanks for the clear ruling.

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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2017, 01:10:42 PM »
This could be a difference of rules as intended vs rules as written. I can see how one may interpret that rules passage as only applying to counterstrikes and damage barriers, but I assure you that the important part of that passage is the "during its action phase" part. Any condition received mid Action Phase, that is normally removed at the end of the Action Phase, is intended to persist through to the next Action Phase, so that it may actually have an affect on the game. 100% certainty that it is supposed to apply to Eye for an Eye.
question: i get a stun condition from Hydrothermal vent during my action phase but it has time enough to have an affect (I can't attack after my moove)...
is it remmoved at the end of this action phase or at the end of the next one?

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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2017, 06:24:02 PM »
Next one. Hydrothermal Vent is really mean.

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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2017, 12:27:47 AM »
thanks!

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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #20 on: March 11, 2017, 08:27:27 PM »
Maybe the rules just need a "for example" ... like in "... receives a condition during its Action Phase, for example, due to an enemy damage barrier or counterstrike, ...."
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Re: Eye for an eye giving the attacker a daze / stun - when is it removed
« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2017, 06:49:58 AM »
This could be a difference of rules as intended vs rules as written. I can see how one may interpret that rules passage as only applying to counterstrikes and damage barriers, but I assure you that the important part of that passage is the "during its action phase" part.

It's that wonderful habit of adding clarifications in a rules section, that then look like absolute bounding of a rule...