Arcane Duels Streaming PALADIN VS SIREN

[RomeoXero]

Ill add to the stack! I still re watch those games sometimes for insight or laughs. I find Harry Poppins particularly hilarious! Still waiting on that forcemaster game against puddns druid i helped you practice for

[baglio88]

Is Metatron in the PvS set?

[Coshade]

Ill add to the stack! I still re watch those games sometimes for insight or laughs. I find Harry Poppins particularly hilarious! Still waiting on that forcemaster game against puddns druid i helped you practice for

Yeah we have some live games not released including Academy ones. I'll see what I can do for editing them after PvS review videos come out.

[Reddicediaries]

Coming out today?

[Coshade]

Not today. 

[Reddicediaries]

Dang it.  Oh well, I'll wait.

[Reddicediaries]

Today?

[Coshade]

We are streaming live!!!

[Donovan]

What a game. Seriously I thought Shark was going to lose. And then... Blub blub blub blub... What a mighty card!

Small request: Could you hover the cursor above the cards that are being played a bit longer? That helps when you watch the game via Youtube as video.

Perhaps also discuss the situation on the board every 5-10 minutes or so, hovering the cursor above each card?

So what was the ruling on the way Tsunami worked? I kind of agree with Sharkbait regarding my expections of how Tsunami works:

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami."

There was a discussion on how this worked if you cast the spell to the zone on your right and how the push would resolve. Normally a push resolves from from mage. But in this case that would be weird in my opinion:

So the mage casts Tsunami in the zone to his right and chooses direction "left". So far I think that is OK and intended.

But now the push happens. The discussion was that a push should normally resolve from the mage - away from him. But that would be weird, because the next zone Tsunami hit would be the zone where the mage would be in himself. So what is away then? And what about the 3rd time Tsunami hits. Now the Tsunami hits the zone to his left and the push direction is suddenly towards the mage? Or is the direction of the push chosen every time the Tsunami hits a zone?

Or, much more natural, is the direction of the push always the same as the direction of the Tsunami?

I would favor the last option, because it is much more natural.

Perhaps the card should read:

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami. The push effect uses the same direction."

[Coshade]

Just letting you guys know you can watch the stream from yesterday here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHP56J0VKI4

@Donovan - With Tsunami you have to think about the push effect being separate from choosing the direction for the wave itself. If you imagine it like Jet Stream Push -> Whatever zone your mage is currently in when the attack sequence happens is where the rule for push follows.

I think if Shark would have known he could have just used minor teleport or pushed himself into the zone and do the same thing and still pull the clutch win.

Also I'll try and hover over for longer! New cards are hard to understand.

[Donovan]

Just letting you guys know you can watch the stream from yesterday here --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHP56J0VKI4

@Donovan - With Tsunami you have to think about the push effect being separate from choosing the direction for the wave itself. If you imagine it like Jet Stream Push -> Whatever zone your mage is currently in when the attack sequence happens is where the rule for push follows.

I think if Shark would have known he could have just used minor teleport or pushed himself into the zone and do the same thing and still pull the clutch win.

Also I'll try and hover over for longer! New cards are hard to understand.

Still Tsunami is a different beast where the normal push rule acts weird.

Because the Tsunami repeats itself into a chosen direction. And every time a push can be generated.

So what about the 3rd or 4th push? Still into the same direction that was originally away from the mage, but might be towards the mage in the 4th attack of the Tsunami?

Or will the push direction be re-evaluated every time the Tsunami hits and is then always away from the mage?

I think that might not be the intention of the card.

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami."

A push effect always pushes the target one zone in the same direction as the line from the source to the target.

I think in the case of Tsunami, the Tsumani source zone is actually the source of the push. That would be much more natural.

This card definitely needs a ruling in my view.

Is it:

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami. The push effect uses the same direction in which the Tsunami is travelling."

or

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami. The direction of each push effect is evaluated with every new attack and is always away from the mage."

or

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami. The direction of the push effect is evaluated for the first attack (away from the mage) and then every subsequent push uses this same direction.."

[Donovan]

Having read the Tsunami text again, I think it really means "repeat the attack".

So that is as if the mage attacks the next zone again with the same card.

That would point towards:

"When Tsunami is cast, choose a direction. After the attack resolves, repeat the attack one zone farther away in the chosen direction. This continues until there are no farther zones. Flying creatures are immune to Tsunami. The direction of each push effect is evaluated with every new attack and is always away from the mage."

[Laddinfance]

Tsunami always pushes away from the casting Mage. If there are two equidistant options then you pick which of those  directions the push goes in. All of this follows standard Push rules.

[Donovan]

I think the theme of the rolling Tsunami attack makes you expect the attack pushes creatures into the same direction the Tsunami is moving. "The water pushes things" is what the brain expects.

But what really happens is a mage who casts Tsunami with a potential push (away from him) followed by the same mage casting another Tsunami with a potential push (away from him) etc. etc.. So the mage always causes the push and not the Tsunami.

I'd have loved to see the push direction to follow the Tsunami direction though... 

Guess you just have to take care that the casting direction of Tsunami is the same direction as the direction you choose the Tsunami to move (cast to your left and move left for example). Then everything is pushed with the Tsunami, which might cause multiple attacks.

[Beldin]

Does this mean that PVS, Academy: Priestess and Academy: Warlock are all programmed into the OCTGN module?


If not would you like a hand?