Can you use a Spawnpoint with muti school

[Werekingdom]

Can you use a spawn point with muti school?

I was thinking of the wizard swawn point Gate to Voltari, I want to use "Asto Vidatu, Angel Slayer" he has Level 3 arcane and level 2 dark. Can I use him in Gate to Voltari?

[Schwenkgott]

Yes, we can! As long as the creature has at least 1 level in the required school you can summon it via the spawnpoint.

[Zuberi]

He is an arcane creature, so yes you can. The rule for multi school spells is that they count as both schools simultaneously for all proposes. He could also be used with pentagram.

[Zuberi]

Another interesting thing to note is that he counts as a level 5 arcane creature. This is because he is level 5 and he is arcane. Ditto for being a level 5 dark creature. Level and school are independent traits for a creature. This doesn't matter much right now, but may be important should anything ever refer to "level x school spells" in the future. If we wanted to refer to only the levels within a particular school, we'd have to say something like "x levels within school".

[exid]

Another interesting thing to note is that he counts as a level 5 arcane creature. This is because he is level 5 and he is arcane. Ditto for being a level 5 dark creature. Level and school are independent traits for a creature. This doesn't matter much right now, but may be important should anything ever refer to "level x school spells" in the future. If we wanted to refer to only the levels within a particular school, we'd have to say something like "x levels within school".

do you mean that the druid would pay double to put a raincloud in his book?

[Halewijn]

+ renewing rain

[exid]

realy?

[wtcannonjr]

Yes.

Whenever the spell level includes the & symbol you must add the spell point costs of each school when placing it in a spellbook.

 Note - this differs from the OR symbol which allows the mage to pay the spell point cost for any school listed. See Elemental Wand for an example.

[Halewijn]

I think you dont understand the question. Do you have to pay 3 or 4 points? Looking at zuberi answer, I would say 4, but I always use 3.

My first comment should come with a "?" because I dont know.

[Puddnhead]

Raincloud costs you 3 spell book points as a Druid.  It's level 1 Water & level 1 Air.  3 points.  It is still considered a level 2 spell and it is also a Water spell AND an Air spell.

[Halewijn]

That's what I thought. But Zuberi, The god of mage wars rules, said explicitly

Another interesting thing to note is that he counts as a level 5 arcane creature. This is because he is level 5 and he is arcane. Ditto for being a level 5 dark creature.

Meaning that both raincloud and renewing rain would be a level 2 water spell, in which the druid is not trained.

[Puddnhead]

For purposes of spells that have costs or effects affected by levels, the angel slayer is a level 5 creature and is counted as a Dark creature AND as an Arcane creature.  I disagree that it is a level 5 of each.  That would make it a level 10 creature; it is only a level 5 creature.

[Halewijn]

ok, that's what I thought. I guess Zuberi made a small error then

[Zuberi]

No error, just not really relevant. Nothing in the game currently is affected by this fact, and may never be, but it's something I found interesting. The druid isn't trained in level 1 water spells, she's trained in level 1 of the water school. Not the same thing.

Basically, just pointing out that creature level and creature school are two separate stats. This creature is level 5, and arcane, and dark. Or pit another way, it is a leveln 5 arcane and dark creature. Or another, it is both a level 5 arcane creature and a level 5 dark creature.

Sorry for any confusion this may have caused. Absolutely no effects on game play and no need to worry about it, just me being geeky.

[DaveW]

Meaning that both raincloud and renewing rain would be a level 2 water spell, in which the druid is not trained.

So you are saying that a Druid pays four spellbook points to put either spell in the book, correct? This is different from what was said earlier by Puddnhead, which I believe Zuberi also is intimating.