Community Card Construction - Making a level 4 Nightmare Creature

Started by Laddinfance, October 09, 2015, 09:54:44 AM

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Laddinfance

Sorry for the delay everyone. I swear I hadn't forgotten about you. Our last poll showed that we wanted a level 4 nightmare creature. This gives us a ton of options, but the first question is do we want this creature to be Legendary or not?

Next, looking at "Nightmare Creature" there are tons of options in front of us. First there is the creature who feeds on dreams. This would be like a kick ass version of haunter from pokemon. It puts you to sleep and then feeds on you without breaking the condition. Then, there is the "Phantom Force Nightmare". This one could be like a poltergeist or some form of intangible force knight with a horrifying presence.  And I'm sure you guys have ideas for this as well. We're close. After this step I'll build some playtest cards for us to see just what we've come up with.

SharkBait



I'm a fan of the Haunter on steroids idea, but I also kinda like this direction ^
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Laddinfance

I was wondering if someone was going to literally go "Nightmare". I'm not opposed to it.

Sailor Vulcan

The Pokemon you're thinking of is Drowzee, not haunter. Haunter can learn Dream Eater and Hypnosis but that's not what it's famous for nor what it's pokedex entry says.
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Laddinfance

No, I was thinkn' of Haunter, but that's just because of the misinformation of the Original base set of the Pokemon Card game. Also, he fits the motif we're going for better than Drowzee or Hypnos.

exid

still for the put to sleep + attack on sleeping creatures!
i'm not in the pokemon enough to say if it's a haunter or a drowzee, but in MW it would be a giant wolf spider-like.

Laddinfance

The point of Drowzee/Haunter (more specifically the Dream Eater attack) was that it didn't wake you up if you were asleep. So yes, it would be like the Giant Wolf Spider, except when it attacks a sleeping creature with it's "Dream Eater" then it wouldn't break the sleep.

exid

Quote from: Laddinfance on October 09, 2015, 12:03:10 PM
The point of Drowzee/Haunter (more specifically the Dream Eater attack) was that it didn't wake you up if you were asleep. So yes, it would be like the Giant Wolf Spider, except when it attacks a sleeping creature with it's "Dream Eater" then it wouldn't break the sleep.

i'm not against the idea (for exemple if our creature would seem to be too powerfull) to have an escape-awakening roll at the end of the dream-attack.

Laddinfance

Currently they are plenty of Psychic Immune creatures who wouldn't go to sleep. Also there isn't a way to make a Mage sleep right now. So, I don't think there is too much to worry about, yet. That said there is a lot of designing to do so there is plenty of time to look at balance. We're just talking concepts right now.

fas723

As I suggested in a previous topic it would be really good for the discussion and understanding if people could add a link with a picture as an example together with the description to describe their Nightmare.

fas723

I would still like to see a dark nimble knight / death dancer who puts fear into opposing creature by its attacks. Like removing guards, or making them flee. Here's a example picture.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/f8/40/18/f840183c370378c74a3f5a0184106234.jpg

Laddinfance

I assume the Force Knight looks something like this...


Then the dream eater I think looks like this...


Can't find a good picture of a more "serious" version.

Boocheck

I am one with the force, the force is with me! (Warlord is still my fav mage ;) )

ringkichard

I've always been a fan of the "am I awake or am I dreaming" sort of nightmare.

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Only at the end the butterfly is a tear in the fabric of reality and it has fangs. Oh! The fangs!
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sIKE

Then all of the Psychic Immunity Creatures come in to play and you the realize that the nightmare is on you for having such a useless creature in play and start thinking I will just go back to the Grizzly for the FM as he is just so much better.