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Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« on: March 31, 2014, 10:11:28 PM »
Pictures of revealed cards: http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=13984.0
I'm comparing what http://www.arcanewonders.com/products/forged-in-fire-spell-tome-expansion says we get in the expansion and what has already been revealed to guess how much is left to reveal.

Adramelech Warlock Mage Card and Ability Card,
    http://www.arcanewonders.com/arcane-wonders/forged-in-fire-preview-the-adramelech-warlock

Warlord of the Anvil Throne Mage Card and Ability Card,
    http://www.arcanewonders.com/arcane-wonders/creative-corner

158 total spell cards(average 3.85 copies per card)
If DvN and KUMANJARO are indicators:
6 copies: level 1 nonequipment cards
3 copies: legendaries, equipment which is single school and level 2+
2 copies: epic, unique, legendary cards with a mage restriction, Mage specific equipment(Necromancer only rather than Dark Mage only ie death ring but not cloak of shadows)
4 copies: everything else
Based on the above system, i will guess the number of copies of each card as well. Yes, equipment is treated like its unique for the most part.

41 New Spells;
Not counting Debilitate and Holy Strike Promos
no new garrison post copies was mentioned
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mentioned only(1/4) (copy count a complete guess)
Incantation "Disarm" (4)  (it might interact with the new condition disable)


promos that are to be added(7/32)
(for released promos: http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/992092/current-promo-list )
Hurl Rock (6)
lev 2 holy soldier (4)
Lions Savagery (6)
Bloodcrag Minotaur (4)
Sersiryx, Imp familiar (2)
Morning Star (4)
Wall of Force(6) (confirmed?)


Creatures 10/36)
Wildfire Imp (6)
Talos (2)
Anvil Throne Crossbowman(4)
Bone Dragon (2)
Blood Demon (4)
Goblin Alchemist (4)
Otto Kronig, Master Engineer (3)
Infernal Scourger (4)
Gurmash, Orc Sergeant (2)
Cerberus(3)

Equipment (5/11)
Gurmash's Signal Ring(2)
Bloodfire Helmet (2)
Harshforge Plate (2)
Eisenach's Forge Hammer (3)
Adramelech's Torment (2)


Enchantments (5/26)
Fumble (6)
Rust (6)
Brace Yourself (6)
Arcane Corruption (4)
Adramelech's Touch (4)

Conjurations (6/16)
Talos Statue (2)
Altar of Carnage (2)
Wall of Earth (6)
Armory (3 Edit:2)
Harshforge Monolith (2)
Construction Yard (2; Unholy Resurgence is similiar and has 2 copies)

Incantations (5/28)
Flank Attack (6)
Combustion (6)
Ignite (6)
Defend (6)
Conquer (4)

Attack (1/4)
Devil’s Trident (4)
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April 25th: 33/41 cards revealed thus far. 120/158 copies accounted for if we include the mentioned only cards. 4.75 average copies per card for remainder(so i underestimated card counts, or a lot of 6 copy cards are remaining).  6 weeks till june.

May5th:  34/41  122/158

may 17th 39/41 cards which we know the name, are aware of, or have seen the promo of. That leaves 7 reveals of cards we know some details of already, 2-3 promos, and 2 completely new cards.

June 3rd: we have seen all but two of the 41 cards(disarm and ???). the 39 revealed cards estimate at 153/158 copies. I am guessing i am over by about 2 cards because the two remaining cards likely have more than 5 copies between them.

10 Condition Markers
   Disable Condition
6 Armor Bonus Tokens,
and Rulebook
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2014, 10:21:41 PM »
Thanks for doing this. It'll make writing the promos a lot easier :)
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2014, 10:57:27 PM »
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Construction Yard (3? first epic non-mage exclusive since core set's resurrection? It's not war mage only.)

How could you have more than one in play?
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2014, 11:26:51 PM »
sike, I'm not sure I follow, but if that was a legitimate question, "Conquer" an opponent's Construction Yard could let you have 2 in play, but that is all i can think of. 

Construction Yard is Epic. You quoted me before i checked and realized resurrection is not epic but unholy resurgence is. I worded it up a bit better since then too. I was saying that it can be played by any mage rather than just a war mage. Earth wizards for example might have some use for it.
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2014, 11:49:58 PM »
Do we have any information on Ignite? Hadn't heard of that one yet.
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2014, 11:57:09 PM »
Ignite was spoiled in a facebook comment from the convention thingy. im working from memory, but its something like this:
2 mana incantation. fire 1. range 0-2. target object without a burning marker gains a burning marker.
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2014, 12:26:47 AM »
That's pretty neat. If it's that cheap then I could easily see it going on a Mage Wand to quickly spread the Burn tokens around the board.
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2014, 12:33:18 AM »
sike, I'm not sure I follow, but if that was a legitimate question, "Conquer" an opponent's Construction Yard could let you have 2 in play, but that is all i can think of. 

Construction Yard is Epic. You quoted me before i checked and realized resurrection is not epic but unholy resurgence is. I worded it up a bit better since then too. I was saying that it can be played by any mage rather than just a war mage. Earth wizards for example might have some use for it.
I was pointing out that it was Epic because of its specific mechanic. If two (one on each side) were in play whose yard would work when a conjuration was destroyed?
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2014, 12:53:05 AM »
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I was pointing out that it was Epic because of its specific mechanic. If two (one on each side) were in play whose yard would work when a conjuration was destroyed?

"Epic" means you can only have one in your spellbook, but many can be in play(unlike legendary). so in some crazy freeforall, there could be 6 construction yards cast by 6 different players, each one gaining (level) mana when a non-living corporeal conjuration is destroyed. and as i understand the rules, you could conquer them all! Then you could cast a 4 mana outpost, and immediately try to kill it so your yards get 6 mana back, making a profit. Ok, so i ranted there, but having 2 in play at once is rules-legal and doesnt cause a conflict.

didnt this conflict get talked out when two graveyards came out in necro versus necro? I dont see the problem.
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2014, 01:17:56 AM »
My bad, I thought this one had Legendary on it too..
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2014, 01:46:15 AM »
@ echephron: Magecast spells can be bound to a piece of equipment?

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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2014, 01:59:59 AM »
It was my interpretation that so long as the mage is the one taking the action to cast the spell then yeah you can put a Magecast spell on a wand or other piece of equipment as allowed.
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2014, 02:36:41 PM »
Correct, magecast can be bound to a wand or similar so long as the mage is the caster.  Magecast just means a familiar or other external source cannot cast it

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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2014, 09:51:47 AM »
More info on Devil's Trident can be found in this picture:

It is a 7 mana quick flame attack with a range of 0-1. It gets 4 attack dice and has some condition (probably burn).

Disarm (there is no word after Disarm) is also shown there, though with few details. From what can be read,

Cost X
Quick incantation spell, range 0-2
"When you ca[st this spell, choose an]
object attach[ed to target ?]
marker [?]"

(speculation in brackets)
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Re: Forged in Fire revealed cards summary
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2014, 09:53:00 AM »
thanks, now im waiting for the today spoler.