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ERRATA - Hand of Bim-Shalla

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sIKE:

--- Quote from: Koz on July 19, 2013, 06:53:31 PM ---The real power of the Hands were it's ability to stack.  Now...meh.

Do not like.   >:(

Overreaction to the results of a single tournament IMO.  This puts a bad taste in my mouth for this game honestly.

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I quite agree, very bad taste in mouth.

Wiz-Pig:
Personally I'm not concerned with this change. But I can certainly see how people who sunk money into getting enough copies of this to cheese it's ability would be very upset. I have to agree that it seems like changing the level of the card would have been a better move at least from a PR perspective. I can't speak to game balance issues especially considerations going forward.

Tacullu64:

--- Quote from: Koz on July 19, 2013, 07:32:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: DarthDadaD20 on July 19, 2013, 07:06:26 PM ---I am sorry to hear that Koz.

I'm sure there was more then just one tournament that factored into this decision.

I think alot of players even at home were finding that this combo of HoBS was being used outside of the cards intentions, and it seems like it was a problem for alot of people.

The card still has a purpose, and is a good card IMO even being unique.

And in the future there might be more cards that can utilize this card to a better effect.

I know in my games, a Buddy Build Priest would use up to 6 of these and it made for some less then fun games.

And compared to some other games that are even newer then Mage Wars, this is a very small change, with very little errata and I think they are trying there hardest to keep it that way.

I doubt this was an easy decision for them, and know they donot handle errata lightly.

Point being, I respect your opinion, but I highly doubt this was due to one tournament.

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They should have made it level 2.  That would have reduced the number of copies in books, as well as increasing the cost to put them in for non-Holy Mages.  That would have been a decent fix without gutting the card.  Just seems excessive.

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Although that would be better they shouldn't even have done that. This was unnecessary in the current environment. Is it because of future design considerations?

I'm with Koz on this. It decreases the games appeal for me and I rarely use HoB.

@Patrick Conner.

Errata usually comes with an explanation. Could we please have one.

DarthDadaD20:
I know I run some in my favorite forcemaster build..but it really isn't going to affect my overall love of this game, nor it going to make it any less fun playing every week for 12 hours.

I have been mad at errata before,so I understand. I have had $150 cards become banned after obtaining 4 of them for my deck...and no matter how mad it has made me, it has not gotten in the way of me loving and playing a game.

To me, this is such a small change, some games that have came out after Mage Wars like netrunner,DC and Marvel deck building games have had more errata then this, and it has not got in the way for the fans to continue loving their game.

Just putting my thoughts out there.

Tacullu64:

--- Quote from: DarthDadaD20 on July 19, 2013, 07:50:39 PM ---I know I run some in my favorite forcemaster build..but it really isn't going to affect my overall love of this game, nor it going to make it any less fun playing every week for 12 hours.

I have been mad at errata before,so I understand. I have had $150 cards become banned after obtaining 4 of them for my deck...and no matter how mad it has made me, it has not gotten in the way of me loving and playing a game.

To me, this is such a small change, some games that have came out after Mage Wars like netrunner,DC and Marvel deck building games have had more errata then this, and it has not got in the way for the fans to continue loving their game.

Just putting my thoughts out there.

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Fair enough thats your opinion and you know I respect you and your opinions.

I loathe errata and bannings. As I stated in another post I believe they are bad for games even when they are necessary. I am withholding my decision on my MW future pending an explanation. If I'm convinced it was necessary I'll stick with it, but reserve the right to grumble under my breath about it. Up to this point we still haven't received an official explanation. If they have been discussing this since May they should have their reasons firmed up and like I said in my first post errata usually comes complete with the reasons for it.

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