Whirlpool of Death

[Milevan_Faent]

So, I've been looking for a new deck idea (which I do pretty much every few days anyway), and realized I've never used (or seen anyone use) Whirlpool. So I started thinking what I could do with it. So far I've only got Shallow Sea, Whirlpool, Pillar of Righteous Flame, and Astral Anchor to keep them there.... Any ideas for other cards that can go with this epic combo?

[farkas1]

I thought about the uses for it with all the things you mentioned and think it could be possible.  A very long set up or even an end game mechanic.  I want to use Naiya to help with the set up the whirlpool and or shallow sea.  Also being able to use Tsunami against the opponent to push them across the arena into the whirlpool and possible pillar of righteous flame goes on next.  I suppose the siren could move in push opponent back into zone and cast Astrl anchor or flame to get them stuck and damage.   Again lots of setup and mana but I will do this one day.  It will happen someday...., just hopefully not against me.  although that would be one loss you would be proud your opponent pulled off.

Another thing which Would be cool to pull off,  just do one at a time with whirlpool, astral anchor then pop the pillar and swamp, and build up the death pit while they are stuck for 6 turns.   Not sure how viable that would be but it would be pretty nasty. 

I think this card does have potential maybe not every time against the Mage but I could also see it being really cruel to swarm builds combo it with tsunami.

[Milevan_Faent]

The ideal setup costs 32 mana and 4 actions total..... 11 of that mana and 2 of those actions can be done ahead of time, but the remaining 21 has to be done in one turn. That deals 6 + 16 dice worth of damage. that's not a kill though, so what can be done with that for a killing blow? probably just spamming attack spells i suppose. any suggestions on a deck that can fully take advantage of this and stall until the setup goes off while building up enough mana?

[farkas1]

To be honest I think this only works with a control style so you need to setup the arena and take down targets appropriately.  I do think it's possible but it needs to be at that time when maybe u already have some damage on the opponent.   the last time I played her I opened with Naiya and the discount ring.  used the shoalsdeep tide caller and the merren harpooner to great use with the coral reef walls,  urchins, and vents that Naiya help set up.   I think if I planned it correctly I could of timed an attack stalling with the creature support and using the trident off and on while supporting them.  There was a window where I did not have to cast both my cards.   As well as having over twenty mana.    I was also playing against a graveyard libro, meditation amulet Necro so the action was intense mid to late game.  I was not able to cast my songs on any of the creatures because of the psychic immunity but Gertting out some song of love or chant of rage would be really effective as well as just the sirens call to prevent one creature from attacking.

the songs are going to be key buying time and positioning where you want the opponent to be.  Also having acid ball and rust was critical in my book for lowering the mages armor.    I played pretty aggressive too against this book so it also may differ if playing a more defensive approach.   Having Naiya is a must she adds so much threat to the board and can play agressively and defensively giving that extra action and mana channeling +1 extra in  aquatic zone can help with the economy of a big set up.   

[Milevan_Faent]

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Whirlpool of Death[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Siren Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSJ07]6 x Shallow Sea[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ11]1 x Whirlpool[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ06]1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J18]2 x Poison Gas Cloud[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J12]6 x Mana Crystal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q22]1 x Moonglow Amulet[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSC19]2 x Naiya[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWBD1E01]6 x Astral Anchor[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSQ09]2 x Ring of Tides[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 55 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
This is what I have so far.... I'm not very satisfied with it. I'm probably going to drop the gas cloud and instead take 6 level 1 Water Attacks, maybe a Tsunami or 2. Definitely songs, plus the support cards for songs and probably a teleport wand. What do you guys thing should be added to help this be a killing move?

[Milevan_Faent]

Okay, scratch the previous version. After tinkering around for a while, I've come up with a finished product that I'm not entirely happy with, but which seems more solid at least. Thoughts?

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Whirlpool of Death[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Siren Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSC14]1 x Voice of the Sea[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ03]1 x Echo of the Depths[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]4 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSA02]4 x Swell[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSA03]2 x Tsunami[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]4 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSJ07]6 x Shallow Sea[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ11]1 x Whirlpool[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ06]1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J12]2 x Mana Crystal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q22]1 x Moonglow Amulet[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSC19]2 x Naiya[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC23]3 x Shoalsdeep Tidecaller[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWBD1E01]4 x Astral Anchor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E02]4 x Arcane Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE10]4 x Lullaby[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE03]4 x Chant of Rage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE11]3 x Song of Love[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE06]2 x Healing Madrigal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE07]4 x Hydrothermal Vent[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSQ09]1 x Ring of Tides[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01Q07]1 x Waterfall Cloak[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01Q01]1 x Chitin Armor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ10]1 x Shoalsdeep Trident[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO45]1 x Leather Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q15]1 x Leather Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q16]1 x Leather Gloves[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSI01]4 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI11]2 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI13]2 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRI05]2 x Remove Curse[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]2 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01I01]1 x Clear Mind[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

[farkas1]

Wow crazy cool.   You are really making the whirlpool of death Combo front and center.   Killing blow could be a swarm of the lvl one sharks they would each get 2 extra dice with blood thirsty and being in shallow sea. 

 Yea poisen Gas cloud really is too much mana points for what it does,   I really like the urchins and they work really well with the push pull abilities of the sirens creatures.  I think you for sure need some creature support to hold off an early rush or just have time to set this up. 

I also like to plan for multiple ways of the knockout blow and having this whirlpool of death as a surprise finisher is what I am thinking.   So your idea seems like you want this to be early mid game?  my plan I would try late mid- near end.   6 mana crystals is a bit much too any opponent I know would be on you attacking not allowing for that much setup for economy.  Same thing goes with 6 Astral anchors it seems excessive.   Maybe 2-3 at most Meditation amulet might be a good alternative to slowly build up that mana supply.   Again songs will be key to keep opponent and or creatures off your back.  I will try and post a book at another time.   


Edit
Yep much better.  Looks really good and fun.   still think that's a lot of astral anchors.  I would have the ring of oceans depths for the discount of most of your water spells replacing the amulet or a mana crystal.  Maybe a harmonize on Naiya would be nice. 

[Milevan_Faent]

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Whirlpool of Death[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Siren Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSQ03]1 x Echo of the Depths[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC14]1 x Voice of the Sea[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ08]1 x Ring of the Ocean's Depths[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]4 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSA02]4 x Swell[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSA03]2 x Tsunami[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]4 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSJ07]4 x Shallow Sea[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ11]1 x Whirlpool[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSJ06]1 x Pillar of Righteous Flame[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J12]2 x Mana Crystal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q22]1 x Moonglow Amulet[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSC19]2 x Naiya[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC23]2 x Shoalsdeep Tidecaller[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSC22]5 x Shoalsdeep Thrasher[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1E16]1 x Force Hold[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWBD1E01]2 x Astral Anchor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E02]2 x Arcane Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE10]3 x Lullaby[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE03]2 x Chant of Rage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE11]2 x Song of Love[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE06]2 x Healing Madrigal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSE07]4 x Hydrothermal Vent[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E24]1 x Magebane[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E31]1 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSQ09]1 x Ring of Tides[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01Q07]1 x Waterfall Cloak[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01Q01]1 x Chitin Armor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=PSQ10]1 x Shoalsdeep Trident[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO45]1 x Leather Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q15]1 x Leather Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q16]1 x Leather Gloves[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=PSI01]4 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI11]2 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI13]2 x Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWAPRI05]2 x Remove Curse[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I20]2 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=LG01I01]1 x Clear Mind[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

Updated once again with some final tweaks.