Help with dealing with acid ball

[Reddicediaries]

Very true. However, against the adramelech, he will become toast with out armor. Two 16-21 dice fireballs and he's toast.

Well, in that case he should be, shouldn't he ?
Have you done the math at how much mana has been thrown at his destruction ?

A grizzly is 17 mana and one full action

Your opponent has thrown at least 1 Acid Ball at him (5)
plus two Fireballs (16) and since you're saying here the fireballs did 16-21 damage I assume there's a Curse on him too ( +/-5 ) and the Warlock is likely wearing a Fireshaper ring (3) and a Hawkeye (3) but these latter two are not lost after his destruction.

That means there's a total of about 32 mana spent on his destruction of which 26 mana is lost and at least 6 actions.
This means you come out on top imo, certainly if you managed to hit with the grizzly at least once. You gain about 15 mana and 5 actions on him. What did you do with those ?

I was talking about the troll, in a generic situation.

[JasonBourneZombie]

Dealing with acid ball usually depends. If the spell has been bound, destroy the object binding it. If you can dodge, good. Jinx and reverse attack work well too. Don't load creatures up with +armor until you can draw/take out acid ball uses. Condition removal is nice, and creatures without armor work nicely too. Depending on the book, fortified position can work wonders. They load up corrode, you/your creature leaves the zone and comes back, back to two armor remaining. This applies to the banner as well.

There isn't a means of corrode proofing creatures, but you can make it fall off by hook or by crook as others have shown.

[Reddicediaries]

The thing is, the book this happed with is my grizzly book. Its on the forums.

[Puddnhead]

Honestly Red, that's the problem with the grizzly.  It relies on its armor to last long enough to do damage.  Get that damage out of it and move on or pick a creature that actually has sustain.  I'm not trying to sound flippant when I say that.  the reason bridge troll is good is because it requires that focus fire to take it down.  grizzly has great dice but it's weakness is that people have figured out that it can be killed and how to do that as efficiently as possible.

Therefore I say to you (and reiterate Borg on this) figure out how much mana and actions you opponent is spending on killing the grizzly and ask yourself if he's worth it. if the answer is any degree of yes then keep using him. if the answer is a shade of no, figure out if there's a way to turn it into a yes or use a different creature.

[Biblofilter]

Im a big fan of Grizzly myself and even if Borg is right that you end out on top mana wise your opponent still removes one of your deadly treats.

vs Acid Ball and armor removal there a few options

Raincloud as you already mentioned

Wand of Healing

Renewing Spring

Cure

All of those lets you remove 1 corrode marker and heal/regen some.

A Rhino Hide or similar on the Grizzly might be a good idea vs a Rust+Acid Ball+ a lot of attack dice combo.

Healing your Grizzly often seems like a good idea.

Id try to avoid to put to many enhancements on the Grizzly unless you wanna fool around with enchantment transfusion.

Gotto use him before Critical Strike/Vorpal Blade/Balista comes out

[iNano78]

In other words: A Steelclaw Grizzly is good value if it gets in a couple of attacks while drawing out lots of cards from your opponent with total sbp, mana and action costs exceeding what you spent on the Grizzly.  Your best option might be to follow up the first Grizzly with a second, since you win the exchange each time your opponent is forced to use Acid Ball + Fireball + other actions and expensive spells they use to take it out (plus you presumably got a couple of attacks out of your Grizzly, equivalent to a couple Hurl Rocks at the very least).  Eventually your opponent will run out of Acid Balls and you'll be way ahead.  If Acid Ball is on an Elemental Wand, then deal with that (e.g. Dissolve/Crumble/Corrosive Orchid/Explode - the anti-equipment card of your choice).  If you're talking about Corrodes in general, for instance coming from a Spitting Raptor or Devouring Jelly, well then you have to decide whether it's worth focusing on countering that threat or ignoring it while your Grizzly continues to attack the opposing mage.  It could be as simple as putting a wall between the Raptor/Jelly and your Grizzly (e.g. Force Push + Wall of Earth or similar).  Just try not to spend more resources than your opponent spent on the Raptor/Jelly or else your opponent is coming out on top.

[Reddicediaries]

Thanks for all the responses! Nano, the grizzly book tries to get 2 grizzly out by t3

[Coshade]

If you want to counter acid ball with something that is in school to nature I suggest Rhino Hide. It costs 1 SBP, 4 mana and usually they are spending 2 SBP and 5 mana to get the acid ball on the grizz. Nature is a really nice school to counter things by just buffing the opposite (agony vs Bear Strength, Enfeeble vs Cheetah Speed for example).