November 25, 2024, 05:58:12 AM

Author Topic: Can I use nullify to block my opponent from casting spells on himself?  (Read 4069 times)

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If anyone can help me I would be really grateful.
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Yep, you certainly can. Good way to stop them from teleporting away, among other things.

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My dad thinks otherwise so could you explain why it can?
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He thinks the wording of "enemy creature" refers to the creatures enemy not the controller of nullify's enemy.
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Enemy creature refers to the enemy of the enchantments controller. The Mage that cast nullify is the controller Of the enchantment and pays the mana to use nullify when it is revealed.
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I think they should errata it for better wording.
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[mwcard=MW1E29]Nullify[/mwcard]

The target for Nullify spell is Corporeal Creature, a Mage is a Corporeal Creature. So this spell is cast and is now bound to the mage. It is a mandatory reveal, so when there is a spell that targets the mage that has the spell type of Incantation or Enchantment it is revealed. This happens regardless of who is casting the spell.
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[mwcard=MW1E29]Nullify[/mwcard]

The target for Nullify spell is Corporeal Creature, a Mage is a Corporeal Creature. So this spell is cast and is now bound to the mage. It is a mandatory reveal, so when there is a spell that targets the mage that has the spell type of Incantation or Enchantment it is revealed. This happens regardless of who is casting the spell.

... except for the "controlled by an opponent" part. Nullify doesn't get revealed when you (the controller of Nullify) cast additional enchantments or incantations on the creature (Mage) with FD Nullify.
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[mwcard=MW1E29]Nullify[/mwcard]

The target for Nullify spell is Corporeal Creature, a Mage is a Corporeal Creature. So this spell is cast and is now bound to the mage. It is a mandatory reveal, so when there is a spell that targets the mage that has the spell type of Incantation or Enchantment it is revealed. This happens regardless of who is casting the spell.

... except for the "controlled by an opponent" part. Nullify doesn't get revealed when you (the controller of Nullify) cast additional enchantments or incantations on the creature (Mage) with FD Nullify.
Maybe I should of added that bit in...

The mage hosting the Nullify is the opponent of the owner of the said Enchantment. So when the opposing mage tries to cast and resolve say a Teleport spell the all of the conditions specified on the Nullify are now met and it is triggered.
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He thinks the wording of "enemy creature" refers to the creatures enemy not the controller of nullify's enemy.

It doesn't mention "enemy creature" though. What it mentions is "an incantation or enchantment controlled by an opponent" I agree that this wording may be slightly ambiguous, but I assure you that it means an opponent of the controller of the Nullify spell and not of the creature that it is attached to.

It may help to always consider a spell to be talking directly to it's own controller. Then, any ambiguity can be resolved by assuming it is referring to it's own controller. Vague references of friendly or opponent tends to mean friendly to it's own controller or an opponent of it's own controller. If it was trying to make a different reference, it would typically make an effort to clarify it, such as by saying "an opponent of the creature." If there is no specific clarification, it should be safe to assume it is referencing you, it's controller.

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I didn't have a nullify on me at the time so i put down what i remember it saying, and thanks everyone for your help now i can finally stop teleport.
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