Incorrect spell lists

[kiwipaul]

Wow, with the new feature, making spell lists are much easier, better once the bugs are worked out.

Another question.  Has anyone noticed that the expanded official legal spell lists in the core book are not legal?  Each mage has 120 spell points and none of the four lists meet that.   

Perhaps it has been commented on in the forum, but I have not found it yet.

[Zuberi]

The starter spellbooks in the v2.0 Rulebook are legal. Make sure you're only counting Novice spells as 1 spellpoint regardless of what school they belong to. I made that mistake this first time I added them up.

[kiwipaul]

good point, I shall recalculate, but the wizard still has less than his 120 points regardless.  Thanks for the feedback.  Wondering what people think of the starting lists here,  not the apprentice mode but expanded lists found in the rulebook.

[Zuberi]

This is my results for the Wizard. Let us compare and see if we can find the problem:

Equipment = 13
1x Arcane Ring = 1
1x Dragonscale Hauberk = 2
1x Elemental Wand = 2
1x Leather Boots = 1
1x Mage Wand = 2
1x Moonglow Amulet = 1
1x Staff of the Arcanum = 2
1x Suppression Cloak = 2

Conjurations = 9
2x Mana Crystal = 2
1x Mana Siphon = 3
2x Poison Gas Cloud = 4

Creatures = 24
2x Blue Gremlin = 4
1x Darkfenne Hydra = 4
1x Gorgon Archer = 4
1x Huginn, Raven Familiar = 3
2x Mana Leech = 4
1x Moonglow Faerie = 2
1x Stonegaze Basilisk = 3

Enchantments = 27
1x Block = 2
1x Circle of Lightning = 2
2x Decoy = 2
2x Essence Drain = 4
1x Force Hold = 4
1x Force Sword = 2
1x Harmonize = 1
1x Jinx = 1
2x Nullify = 2
1x Reverse Attack = 4
1x Reverse Magic = 2
1x Teleport Trap = 1

Incantation = 31
1x Banish = 3
1x Dispel = 1
2x Dissolve = 4
1x Drain Power = 3
2x Minor Heal = 4
1x Purge Magic = 3
2x Seeking Dispel = 2
1x Sleep = 4
1x Steal Enchantment = 3
2x Teleport = 4

Attacks = 16
1x Chain Lightning = 3
1x Electrify = 2
2x Jet Stream = 2
3x Lightning Bolt = 6
1x Thunderbolt = 3


Total = 120

[Zuberi]

For you second question, "what people think of the starting lists," here are my opinions.

The starting spellbooks provide a lot of flexibility and room to play around. You can try a multitude of tactics with them and get a good feel for the game. They are well balanced in regards to one another. Unfortunately, their versatility means a lack of focus. Custom spellbooks which are more focused take less time to play and win, and will mop the floor against a starter spellbook (assuming the person who built the custom book is any good at building & playing).

[kiwipaul]

ok, the total should be 123 points

the boots are war school, not arcane so the multiplyer should be x 2 for a non specialist school.  total points 2.

since the wizard is specialised in air (for all the lightning spells and such)  the decoys which are of the mind also have a multiplier of 2 so they are 4 in total, not two.  this adds three to your total

I have recalculated the other lists and the priestess and warlock are fine, but the beastmaster is also incorrect

[sdougla2]

Decoy and Leather Boots have Novice, so are correctly costed in Zuberi's list.

[Zuberi]

Thank you to sdoubla2 for answering kiwi's question. Let us repeat the process for the Beastmaster that is giving you trouble and see if we can find the error there as well, shall we?

Attacks = 6
2x Geyser = 4
1x Jet Stream = 2

Conjurations = 18
1x Lair = 4
3x Mana Flower = 3
1x Mohktari = 2
1x Rajan's Fury = 2
3x Tanglevine = 3
1x Tooth and Nail = 2
2x Wall of Thorns = 2

Creatures = 33
3x Bitterwood Fox = 3
1x Cervere = 4
1x Emerald Tegu = 2
2x Feral Bobcat = 2
1x Mountain Gorilla = 4
1x Redclaw = 4
1x Sosruko = 2
1x Steelclaw Grizzly = 4
2x Thunderift Falcon = 2
3x Timber Wolf = 6

Enchantments = 20
2x Bear Strength = 2
1x Block = 2
1x Bull Endurance = 1
1x Cheetah Speed = 1
1x Cobra Reflexes = 2
1x Eagle Wings = 2
1x Marked for Death = 2
1x Mongoose Agility = 1
1x Nullify = 2
1x Regrowth = 1
1x Retaliate = 2
2x Rhino Hide = 2

Equipment = 11
1x Bearskin = 1
1x Elemental Cloak = 2
1x Mage Wand = 4
1x Regrowth Belt = 1
1x Ring of Beasts = 1
1x Staff of Beasts = 2

Incantations = 32
1x Battle Fury = 2
2x Call of the Wild = 2
1x Charge = 2
2x Dispel = 4
1x Dissolve = 2
1x Force Push = 2
1x Group Heal = 4
1x Heal = 4
1x Knockdown = 2
2x Minor Heal = 4
1x Piercing Strike = 1
1x Perfect Strike = 1
1x Rouse the Beast = 1
1x Shift Enchantment = 1

Total = 120

[kiwipaul]

wow, cannot believe that I missed that again.  Went through looking for the novice spells as well.  Correct so wizard priestess and warlock are fine.  Now to the beastmaster.  No later, first I am off to our little tourni.  See if I can even the scores tonight.

You will be hearing from me.

[kiwipaul]

Great, thanks guys, I see I overlooked novice again.  also 120 for the beastmaster.  All is good and accounted for, now to use them on each other.   Basic set has enough in to keep me busy without the expansions .... for now.   Do any of you have the necromancer vs druid yet?