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New player, have 2 questions
« on: July 10, 2013, 01:50:23 PM »
I'm sure I'll have many more as time goes by.

Right now I have two things I need cleared up for me.

When using a wand, is the mana cost for the spell the cost of the spell+the cost of the wand or just the cost of the spell?

Secondly, if the other player uses a dissolve on me and I have reveal a reverse magic spell do I get to pick a piece of their armor? And if so how much mana does that cost them? Dissolve says X=cost of the piece of armor so does it cost them whatever the cost is of the piece I pick?

So far loving this game but this is something my wife (only person I play against right now) nit picks on so I figured I'd ask here.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2013, 03:21:55 PM »
Welcome to the game.

When using the wand you pay for the wand first and bind a spell too it. When you cast the bound spell you only pay the bound spells cost.

As for question 2. I do believe you are correct. You get to pick the equipment and it costs your opponent the cost printed on said equipment.

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2013, 03:38:18 PM »
Dallas is correct in that casting the wand and using the wand are two separate actions. 5 mana to cast it, and however much mana to use the bound spell.

Dissolve + Reverse works like this:
1) Cast Spell step: Enemy player targets your Mage. He intends to dissolve your Storm Drake Hide, so he pays 6 mana during the Cast Spell step.

2) Counter Spell step: You reveal Reverse Magic. The dissolve is countered, and now you control it and use it on your opponent.

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1) Cast Spell step: You now target the enemy Mage. (you have no choice, due to the wording of Reverse Magic) Your opponent has already invested 6 mana into the Dissolve. So if you wanted to dissolve a wand (5 mana) you don't need to invest any more Mana. However, let's say you want to dissolve Reflex Boots (9 mana). You will need to pay 3 mana to make up the difference.

2) Counter Spell step: At this point your opponent could use a nullify or his own Reverse, if applicable. But let's say he doesn't have any face down cards.

3) Resolve Spell step: Dissolve resolves. At this point, it has 9 mana invested. You can choose to dissolve any piece of equipment on your opponent so long as its mana cost is 9 or less. Since the only reason you invested mana into it was to dissolve Reflex Boots, you choose to dissolve Reflex Boots.

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 03:44:54 PM »
Great thanks guys. That was how I thought things worked but my wife is convinced I was cheating.

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2013, 04:51:35 PM »
Nice work Pious
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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2013, 11:47:45 PM »
I did not know that about reverse magic. Learn new stuff every day. Thanks pious.

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2013, 11:58:32 PM »
It was along write up Bryan did a while back
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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2013, 01:16:31 AM »
It was along write up Bryan did a while back

Where is that long write up?

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2013, 01:20:11 AM »
It was along write up Bryan did a while back

Where is that long write up?

Could not find it a bunch of post got lost when we switched servers. It was done back in Oct Nov if you want to try to find it.
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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2013, 07:18:19 PM »
That is fantastic. I am curious however about the part where there is a certain amount of mana invested in the dissolve and then you are able to invest more into it if you desire. What part of the rules supports this mechanism?

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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2013, 08:51:14 PM »
Designer fiat. I remember the writeup, and that's what he wrote.

It should go in the FAQ.
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Re: New player, have 2 questions
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2013, 12:40:18 AM »
It is in the FAQ now, under "Reverse Magic".