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Conjuration with Living trait
« on: April 25, 2013, 02:09:59 PM »
Is it possible to heal living conjurations?
Is it possible to make them sleep or something?

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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2013, 02:28:28 PM »
Yup, you can heal anything with the "living" trait.  Most conjurations do not have that, but some do, like the Mana Flower.

As far as I'm aware, you can't make a living conjuration sleep.  Sleep and Mass Sleep specify creatures...and even if you were able to make a Mana Flower sleep, I'm not sure what the purpose would be.  Conjurations don't get action markers, so making them sleep would be kind of pointless.

On another note...what kind of dreams does a Mana Flower have? :D
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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2013, 03:12:18 PM »
It depends on the spell/ability.

A living conjuration CAN be healed.  But, the spell you use to do so must be able to target it.

Heal, for example says "living creature" in its target line.  So it cannot actually be cast on a mana flower, despite it being living because its not a creature.

The ability/spell target options must include "Conjuration", or simply "Object" in order to be able to target the conjuration.

Sleep is the same deal.. its target specifies "living creature".   I think conjurations all have psychic immunity anyway though, which would also prevent sleep.

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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2013, 11:57:50 PM »
I didn't see any spell that provide healing object, only creature. So, living conjuratinon can be healed, but there is no possibility now, isn't it?

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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 12:34:27 AM »
:) Welcome to the forums ZveroMaxx! :)

As of right now...no. (Goblin builder can Remove damage off of any conjuration) [strike]But one neat trick I will use is to cast a wall of thorns, and have my mage with the enchantment Vampirism attack it to heal damage....then next upkeep, the wall will regenerate. I will do this with mana flowers as well. (Better if its the opponents to kill/heal off of.) So the living conjurations have their uses.[/strike]
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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2013, 07:15:26 AM »
Quote from: "DarthDadaD20" post=11804
:) Welcome to the forums ZveroMaxx! :)

As of right now...no. (Goblin builder can Remove damage off of any conjuration) But one neat trick I will use is to cast a wall of thorns, and have my mage with the enchantment Vampirism attack it to heal damage....then next upkeep, the wall will regenerate. I will do this with mana flowers as well. (Better if its the opponents to kill/heal off of.) So the living conjurations have their uses.


This is illegal I think. You must remember that the Wall of Thorns and Mana Flower are living conjurations but not living creatures.
Vampirism says: " when this attack causes damage to a Living creature..."
So, You cannot heal Yourself by attack them.

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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2013, 08:33:24 AM »
Hey! Good catch Miyagi! Me and my group did this all the time when we first started playing! I dont know how anyone never caught that?

Thanks! :P
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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2013, 08:52:11 AM »
Quote from: "DarthDadaD20" post=11804
:) Welcome to the forums ZveroMaxx! :)

As of right now...no. (Goblin builder can Remove damage off of any conjuration) [strike]But one neat trick I will use is to cast a wall of thorns, and have my mage with the enchantment Vampirism attack it to heal damage....then next upkeep, the wall will regenerate. I will do this with mana flowers as well. (Better if its the opponents to kill/heal off of.) So the living conjurations have their uses.[/strike]


I think you cannot do that :P but a nice ideea .

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Re: Conjuration with Living trait
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2013, 10:01:23 AM »
We may of not made this mistake now.....but yeah.....all of us....all the time did this.
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