At first sight, they seem pretty balanced. for 4 extra mana and an extra spb you get 2 extra dice. A slightly better effect die and most importantly, 1 extra range.

But:
The biggest difference between hurl meteor is the full cast.
- You are not able to use it during first/last qc.
- You cannot move, or use your melee attack. (and since you just cast a 12 mana spell, a free melee attack would be nice)
- The 3-zone range isn't a real advantage since you can simply come closer and use the boulder instead.

The only situation were you can ever use the meteor is when you REALLY do not want to come any closer.

I could see the meteor being usefull without it being a full cast, but the fc seems like a dealbreaker. Why was it designed like that?

Hi guys,

This was my deck I used in the Thunderdome 2 tournament. In general I'm not the biggest fan of posting decks on the forum. But I wanted to share this one since I think I found a way to make the spider viable since I've had some good succes with it. (Although it was a flop during the tournament.  )

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Aragog's nest[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Druid Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKA01]3 x Surging Wave[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]2 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1A08]2 x Geyser[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO35]1 x Acid Blast[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNJ10]1 x Stranglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1W04]2 x Wall of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J13]2 x Mana Flower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ12]1 x Vine Tree[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNJ11]4 x Tanglevine[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNW01]2 x Bloodspine Wall[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWBG1J04]1 x Raincloud[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNC20]2 x Vine Snapper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC06]1 x Kralathor, The Devourer[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC18]1 x Togorah, Forest Sentinel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC09]3 x Giant Wolf Spider[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC21]2 x Thornlasher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNC10]1 x Raptor Vine[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1E36]2 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE07]1 x Rust[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE02]1 x Divine Might[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E28]1 x Mongoose Agility[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNE01]1 x Barkskin[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E01]1 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E03]1 x Bull Endurance[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]2 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E05]1 x Cheetah Speed[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE03]2 x Falcon Precision[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWBG1E01]1 x Astral Anchor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNQ04]1 x Druid's Leaf Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ08]1 x Vinewhip Staff[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ06]1 x Mohktari's Branch[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO34]1 x Chitin Armor[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I17]2 x Minor Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I06]2 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI02]4 x Burst of Thorns[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I07]4 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I23]1 x Rouse the Beast[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]2 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I12]2 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI04]1 x Renewing Rain[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]


In general my opening would be as followed:
turn 1: ring + tree
turn 2: spider + mana flower
turn 3: depends

The base strategy is to pin the enemy mage down (or creatures) and fill him up with poison. Akiro's favor is there to make sure the spiders are hard hitting. The spiders are hard to kill and the more you have the better they become. Mostly I try to cast at least 2 of them.

- The few plants are more for support then a base strategy.
- My vine tree would cast a lot of tanglevines.
- Togorah is extremely epic. I want him in every druid book.
- Since the necro is poison immune he is the worst matchup for this book. Kralathor is there only for necro's.
- I'm thinking about taking the Vinewhip staff out of it since I don't want to waste the action casting it. It would be great if the vine tree could cast all vine spells 
- I feel like I missed a purify. Maybe another mohk. branch

The flame -2, regen etc is also for the opponent right? Then, is the option to pay to remove corrode and burn also for the enemy?

I think the discussion about the wizard is going in circles and I want to know what the general opinions are.
Voting seems very democratical, since every opinion is equally important. If you want to add new insights, maybe it is still better to do it in the other tread.

If not done already, maybe read the other tread about the wizard to read pro's and con's of different oppinions.

Note: This is not an official vote, and I'm not saying it should be! The Arcane Wonders team of course decides everything!


I tried adding all the options I read. If there are options that I forgot/should be added, let me know. 

Also: Try not to make false votes to improve your opinion.

example: something should happen but none of the above + x3 for elements.
Here this looks like 2 people want to change stuff.

example 2: Nothing, he's perfect + Nothing, improve the others.
Same reason.

There is no problem clicking on multiple suggestions.

Yesterday my necromancer was battling a forcemaster and I lost horribly. Even though my deck had many manouvring spells in them it seems like the necro is doomed to lose vs a forcemaster.

- She can outmanouvre your slow pest zombies all the time. She is just much better in it. With skeletons this problem isn't as bas, but still.
- When using little, stronger zombies her defences are hard to get trough.
- When using a swarm, she can quickly dash to the other side of the arena and summon a suppression orb/mordoks Obelisk. You almost have to kill all your small zombies then because they won't be able to do anything before depleting your mana completely.
- You could use a curse strategy, but let's assume your deck does not include enough curses for that.

Druid vs. warlock is running uphill, but I feel like necro vs forcemaster is more Climbing a mountain for the necro.


So the question: How would your necromancer fight a forcemaster?

I've been trying to use the unicorn, but I don't seem to find a perfect fit. The charge seems in contrast with the regenerate. (charging away from the rest)

I could see him work with the beastmaster but then I have a hard time justifying the spellbook points.

How have you used him in the past? Could he be a decent holy avenger?

Hello everyone,

Because my necromancer really had a hard time dealing with the druids galathor and trees i would love to try sardonyx on her. I want to go really aggressive and kill her vine tree as fast as possible. I noticed that his finite life ability only states creatures, but to me it seems strange if his poisonous aura wouldnt work on trees.

Can someone clarify this?