well, to make the veteran's more usefull they could just make more creatures like the bridge troll (high healt + strong traits) but are of a lower level. I would also like to se an unfairly strong way to get ahead on the board for the warlords but at some other cost like health, actions or sbp's. So that you always get vet tokens AND get to put them on creatures who will get the largest benefits from +1 armor and melee.

Chronovator

Life 32     Chanel 10

Trained in arcane level 3 and mind level 2. Earth and nature cost tripple.

Manipulate time
When you are going to use your qucik cast marker you may instead pay 1 mana and put a amount of your choice countdown markers to a maximum of 4 on your mage stat card. Remove one marker during each upkeep phase when all of them are removed you get to prepare an extra spell that round and get an extra quick cast action. While there are still countdown markers on your mage stats card you may not use this ability once again.

Fourth dimension
At the end of your mage's action phase place the third time marker in the same zone as the second time marker. Then the second marker in the first markers zone and after that the first time marker in the zone that you started in during that activation. When you make a move action you have the option to pay mana equal to one of the markers number time 2 and move to that zone insted. Doing this will take that marker of the board.

Quick punch: quick action, melee, 1 dice, quadrastrike.

Quote from: Knabb master on July 06, 2017, 05:11:24 AM

Dragon's call
If you have prepared a creature with the dragon subtype. You may pay 8 mana instead of the normal casting cost and place 3 dissipate tokens on it after it has been summoned. If that creature is still alive when the last dissipate token is removed place the card back into your spellbook and not the discard pile.

 

Totally OP!

Yeah i think you right it would probably need to cost around 12 mana (3 dissipates=2 activatons= roughly 10 dice with piercing) or more. And should have limited uses (like 2 or 3 tokens) so that one dosen't have infinite damage in the spellbook.

And i also realise now that the other mages on this page are busted as power level is concerned.

Quote from: Knabb master on July 04, 2017, 01:08:18 PM

Monk

32 life     chanel 10
Traning: holy level 2 and mind level 2. War and dark spells cost tripple.

Peaceful mind.
During each upkeep phase you gain one aura token for every 10 mana in your supply. At the end of each round all aura tokes get discarded. When you have priority however you may spend any number of them to: gain 1 mana for each you spent, +1 melee until the end of the round or heal 1 damage.

Anticipation.
When an enemy attacks your mage you can spend mana equal to the attackers level and flip your mages action marker to dodge the attack.

Basic attack: quick, melee, 2 dice 7+ daze.

Huh. Reusable block ability seems kind of clunky. I would say you should make it cost 2 Mana as well, but I'm not entirely sure. if you want a holy/mind mage it's probably going to be REALLY tanky. All those defenses and healing and protection. You need some way to balance that.

Edit: NVM I see the mage is only trained in minor spells. It will probably have to get up close to attack the enemy or spend more spell points on a bigger creature or bigger attack spells. Maybe it would work as is?

Edit 2: what about mind's eye and thoughtspores? It seems like this mage would be much better at using them than the forcemaster.

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Yeah i'm not to happy with the block ability either. I'll change it so you spend the action before, (called Anticipation) only works vs melee and change the mana costs to 3 and 2 for minor. Now opponents can attack other things when you try to dodge but it still serves a purpose to protect the mage. Also now it feels like it will not be broken either against swarm nor solo mages.

Peaceful mind might make him a bit to powerful with as you said trained in holy, mind and now also 1-2 additional passive heal. Not sure of a good way to solve that at the moment.

And btw war and dark cost tripple. It was the other mage that only could cast level 1 spells.

Elemantalist
(ok i am not really the first one on this forum to think of this mage  )

Life 32    chanel 8
Training Fire, Water, Air and Earth schools. Non elemental spells of level 2 or higher cost tripple.

The elemantel cycle
Water, earth, fire, air. One element makes the next more powerful.
If the last spell you cast was a water spell the casting cost on earth spells are reduced by their level. If it was an earth spell fire spell gets reduced in the same manner, if it was a fire spell air spells get the discount and if it was air water spells gets it.

Aether field
Through the fifth element everything is conected
Whenever your mage casts a spell you may pay mana equal to its level in order to give it limitless range and ignore LoS.

Basic melee attack: 3 dice

Quote from: Knabb master on July 04, 2017, 06:57:35 AM

I would like for an alternet Necromancer to be less evil to give the impression that death is sad and inevitable. It could be like a ten year old girl who is surrounded by misunderstood nonliving monsters. Here is my idea of what she could be like.

 30 life, 9 chanel and same training as the other necro.

It is hard to take farwell.
Once per round when a friendly nonliving creature is destroyed you may prevent that destruction until the next upkeep phase by paying life equal to their level. You may also use it several rounds on the same creature.

Death comes for everyone
Once during each upkeep phase you may pay mana equal to a living creatures level to place a death marker on them. When a creature has a number on death markers equal to their level + 2 you may as a quick spell destroy that creature.

basic attack: range 0-0 1 dice unavoidable, critical damage.

No. Just no. Death IS evil unless there's a good afterlife, and judging by the fact that Drain Soul basically drains life, and that ressurection spells exist but are expensive to cast and require specialized traning, I would have to assume that most people in etheria cease to exist when they die, just like in real life. Otherwise murder and genocide wouldn't be so bad. Also, once a reader becomes aware of this, having a good, inclusive afterlife in a story drains all the dramatic tension out of it. If everyone who the protagonist ever lost still lives on afterwards, what the heck was the protagonist fighting for the whole time? Why go to such great lengths to save lives if there are almost no seriously bad consequences for people who do die?

That being said, I can imagine a necromancer who only takes life in order to save life, whose great knowledge of poison and diseases helps solve crimes, as well as helping student holy mages learn to recognize symptoms of different health conditions.

I don't think you need an alternate version of the necromancer for that.

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Then i probably put it in a bad way because you seem to have gotten a different picture from what i wrote then i had in mind. There is no happy afterlife the necromancer is just desperatly trying to help other miserable souls who are neither dead or alive. As they are being hunted down by the dawn breaker. And she gives away some of her life to protect the only friends she has (non-living stuff) but they will all eventualy go away.

so it was being less evil not cuz its happy but cuz its sad.

I think that lesser invisibility will be the strongest arena card. since if you time it with initiative you can play a second one during qc before they can nullify or kill the creature you are protecting. With six copies of it in your spellbook and each one saving the creature for two rounds you could guarantee that it lives for twelve rounds total. 
Like imagne a thoughtspore with dissolve, minor heal, sleep or teleport on it.

I used to have a wizard(pre nerf) that played double forge.
If i remember correctly it played like:

Turn 1 (20 mana)
double battle forge

Turn 2 (14+1+1 mana)
enchanters ring, arcane ring, mana crystal and harmonize(on mage)

Turn 3 (15+1+1 mana)
leather armor, moonglow amulet, second crystal and rhino hide.

But idk what mage/build this would be strong with anymore.