This is a discussion about shutting the door after the horse has bolted, and I will add those hinges are rusted in position from the amount of time it has been.

This is the same as asking why are attack dice called attack dice and not action dice. It is a part of the game, that for better or worse, is not going to change.

Quote from: Karadox on March 04, 2019, 01:21:48 AM

Well and a person who dont plays academy, dont need it at all.

Of course they do... it is better and usable in Arena.

Well it depends on the 120. There is a fringe case where you want to save 1 sbp, do not need reach, or the extra burns from lash of Hellfire; but you still want an extra weapon of 4D. I would categorise this as the novice version for LoH for Warlocks. Maybe playable in a forge build but only as a backup. You have to weigh up what you are losing for the gain of a SBP and a in-game gain of 3 mana. Also you have to read it as blank text, as all Ki is generated in arena using inefficient plays. If you really need a burn that badly it is more efficient in actions, SBP, etc to use Wand of fire and Ice.

Personally I think I would stick an extra Lash of Hellfire and a wand of Fire an Ice over this. Both the Lash and the Wand will give you more utility over this alone.

Yes pretty terrible idea - removes most of the skill and tactics...

Apprentice mode is a 6 tile grid. That game already exists, it's not Academy.

Seconded. If it works for you then great however that is not arena, nor is it something I want to play. It is a tit for tat battle that require little thought and planning. What makes the game interesting is locking in a choice for the turn. By choosing the best counter for the spell played, when required, detracts from the game at large. The arena is fine how it is. if you do not like the length or size of the game then maybe another game would be to your liking instead.

The problem here, as Kharhaz stated, is that the rules for using a Vine as the source prevents you from targeting anything outside of the vine's zone (or a wall bordering it). It doesn't matter what the range on the spell is, when you use a vine as the source you are limited to within that vine's zone (or a wall bordering it).

Now, if it's just the Necromancer who has obscured and not the whole zone, you could target a vine in the zone with the Necromancer to attack them.

The difference between Dense Fog and Cloak of Shadows.

All the necromancers here are missing a trick when it comes to the elementalist set, you blood thirsty lot.....

*Walks away grumbling about theme*

Quote from: Beldin on August 18, 2018, 06:09:07 PM

This stops a 11 dice Ludwig and 6D ranged major creatures.

Ludwig is hardly a consideration? +Ranged doesn't affect Zone Attacks or Additional Strikes...

Which is why I didn't say a 15 dice Ludwig. It is not a consideration for Spike players, there are Timmy players who would consider it.

Seriously though, the more these swarms are discussed, the more I wonder how they pass through playtest. They are super cool in theory, but it feels like there are some oversights here.

It has to be remembered that each playtester is a voice within a forum (a super secret one which only we see), much like here. We play with versions of the cards and give our feedback on the designed cards, however it is upto the designers to modify those cards and the final versions ultimately fit the image of the set that they want to create.