Quote from: jacksmack on May 30, 2013, 01:34:06 PM

Conjuration:
Gravity Orb - mind or arcane school

Zone exclusive
Target zone and target neighbour zone: All creatures in these 2 zones loses flying until they leave the zone(s). No creature can gain flying while in the zones.

Gravikor is essentially this except it is earth school. "Legendary and Epic/ All creatures withing 2 zones lose, and cannot gain, the Flying trait." It is a dice tower promo card so sadly I don't have it (yet). Granted I can see how wanting one in another school could be of benefit.

i didnt know of this promo... there should not be 2 identical Cards in 2 different schools.

Conjuration:
Gravity Orb - mind or arcane school

Zone exclusive
Target zone and target neighbour zone: All creatures in these 2 zones loses flying until they leave the zone(s). No creature can gain flying while in the zones.



Trap:
Lava floor

Must be cast in a zone without any objects.
When any creature enters this zone reveal Lava floor.

Put 3 lava tokens in the zone. Lava tokens hinder ground units.
During upkeep lava zone deals X unavoidable fire damage to all non-flying objects in the zone.
X = number of lavatokens +1 (add chance to burn)
At the end of the upkeep remove 1 lava token from the zone.

Shadow what counters do you suggest to that forcemaster strat?

I tried puzzling around with a wizard semi control that uses battleforge (just because i love this spell) on start square with harmonize on.

Depending on who wins initiative round 1 the following rounds will differ.

Anyway, its about using teleport traps, mana drains, mana siphon, maybe 1 wall of stone, huginn, the slow enchantment (on FM) and sorta keep building up while the FM is kept out of range until the wiz gains a big enough mana advantage + hugin disolves and dispells the FM etc.

Besides this the spellbook i made has a gorgon archer, alot of lightning attacks and a decent amount of equipment.

I am modifying my untested control wiz spellbook just because i realized that the current build i had was useless against such an offensive powerhouse that ignores upkeep for creatures and pay 1 mana when moving non mage creature etc.

You can mind control pet/reapers/etc.  Its a buff like any other, so it stays with them as a bear strength would.

With Standard Bearer I -Think- the Standard Bearer Enchantment is destroyed.

Mind Control wont let you take a creature you normally couldnt cast (i.e. cant steal thorg due to Warlord only)
Standard Bearer is Warlord only, but doesnt confer that status to the creature itself.  So the Forcemaster is allowed to control the creature, but not the enchantment.  So I think Standard Bearer would become null and destroyed (then cantrip back to the spellbook)

did you even bother to read my post?'


edit:
btw steal equipment on the Card reads "legally attach". Mind control says nothing about that, so it made me Wonder if Huginn could be Mind controlled.

If Healing Charm is destroyed by Seeking Dispel, can i heal, because it automatically revealed when destroyed like Decoy?

You cannot reveal decoy in that situation. But since seeking dispel destroys decoy, and when decoy is destroyed it triggers +2 mana to owner you still get the mana.

You cannot reveal healing charm after seeking dispel has been declared.


The confusing part on seeking dispel is "once Seeking dispel has been cast".
When excately has SD been cast? after we pass the counter step? or as soon as the mana is paid? or when we get to step 3 resolve spell?

I believe SD (and all other spells) are cast during step 1 - declare spell and target and pay mana cost.

The irony of SD is that even if it gets countered by jinx in theory the enemy mage would never be able to reveal targetted enchantment due to the wording on SD and the above part. Obviously this is not the case though.

i mentioned in my first post that mana prism is a good card against mana drain (a single epic card), from memory it is the only "mana transfer" spell in the game currently. the prism is good value against any mana transfer spell because it would effectively make those spells 1/2 as efficient for the other mage.

Quote from: jacksmack on May 28, 2013, 04:43:51 AM

Also note that if you happen to get rid of the mana drainers (mana siphon, upkeep enchantment, mana leeches, supression orb etc etc) while keeping your prism up, then you will eventually empty your prism from mana resulting in a total of 0 mana lost where as the enemy controller spend tons of mana trying to control your mana.

while you have mana in your siphon you will be as equivalent to 2 channel a turn, only while you have mana in the prism. once you are out of mana in the prism having 2 channel from other spells would be the better choice

That is correct. However the game would in many circumstances be over by then. "just 20 mana" in prism takes 10 rounds to get back and you would most likely never play it in first or second round.

remember to take into the equation that casting 2 x mana flower requires 2 actions and 2 zones where as mana prism is 1 zone and 1 action.

Dont forget that the incantation mana drain gets severely gimped vs mana prism.

16 mana (IIRC) to roll 8 dice. the amount rolled gets transfered.
This spell rolls an average of 8 mana drained. which makes this spell break even for the caster. (he end up paying 8 net, but opponent loses 8 as well. (this is average))
With mana prism the wizard end up paying 16 without any refunds (ever), and opponent lose average of 8.
And thats 8 mana that gets returned eventually.

Also note that if you happen to get rid of the mana drainers (mana siphon, upkeep enchantment, mana leeches, supression orb etc etc) while keeping your prism up, then you will eventually empty your prism from mana resulting in a total of 0 mana lost where as the enemy controller spend tons of mana trying to control your mana.

I can see this prism fit well into decks that have a great weakness vs mana denial wizards.

I will redirect you to the text on the card.

The rings i have seen so far all says "when your mage...." or "this mage...."


A different example is the beastmasters pet ability. This ability is not limited to an animal the beastmaster summoned (animal from lair works too), because of the wording on the beastmaster card.

Thats just an example to show that the wording on the rings would have been different if they applied to familiars.