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Mage Wars => Spellbook Design and Construction => Topic started by: Grimstringer on February 22, 2018, 08:27:46 AM

Title: Force sword/Orb worth it as forcemaster? and suggestions
Post by: Grimstringer on February 22, 2018, 08:27:46 AM
are these worth running as a forcemaster? i just found out that i own one copy of each (got x1 old core )
actually i just started playing as one yesterday, and i dont really know how to go for my defenses... many defense rolls? should i just stack up armor(add gloves/boots for armor)? i already run forge for galvitar/rings/one chest piece

maybe buckler too?

just enchantments like block  /etc?  im lost xD
Title: Re: Force sword/Orb worth it as forcemaster? and suggestions
Post by: zot on February 22, 2018, 09:12:34 AM
sure they are worth it. but do not always rely on those alone.
Title: Re: Force sword/Orb worth it as forcemaster? and suggestions
Post by: Puddnhead on February 22, 2018, 10:22:51 AM
I don't use them.  The benefit is that if you are incapacitated they still function.  The detriment is it gives more reasons to purge you and there's always the chance that it just fails.  I don't like actually using defenses.  I like that defenses make my opponent think twice about lobbing that boulder at me.
Title: Re: Force sword/Orb worth it as forcemaster? and suggestions
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on February 22, 2018, 11:15:55 AM
I don't use them.  The benefit is that if you are incapacitated they still function.  The detriment is it gives more reasons to purge you and there's always the chance that it just fails.  I don't like actually using defenses.  I like that defenses make my opponent think twice about lobbing that boulder at me.
I think the real issue with mage defenses is that you have to use a quick action to put each one on, and each one only stops one attack. So they're good if opponent has only a few creatures, but if they're swarming then mage defenses are not as useful. I might consider using force orb to deal with acid ball or boulder after they surging wave you, but that's kind of a niche use for force orb.

Also, now that Forcemaster has symbiotic orb, she doesn't need to use other defenses against melee attacks most of the time, not unless she really needs to save mana or dissipate tokens.

That being said, there are some other corporeal creatures that would really benefit from a defense unaffected by conditions like daze stun or incapacitated. For instance, anything with a weakness to lightning. Like Brogan Bloodstone.



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Title: Re: Force sword/Orb worth it as forcemaster? and suggestions
Post by: Coshade on February 22, 2018, 03:47:32 PM
Personally I don't like Force Sword, I just stick with a Scimitar. I have used Force Orb in the past, its usually something I would look to cut if I needed sbps for something, but it's a pretty solid card.

The way I usually look at it is as a deterrent for them to use an attack spell, rather then actually getting the defense against it. Some players won't throw the boulder for fear of losing an advantage.
Title: Re: Force sword/Orb worth it as forcemaster? and suggestions
Post by: littlenog on April 12, 2018, 01:05:05 AM
For the SBP cost they are very efficient.

No one pays more than 2 SBP for them.  You could in run them with a Fellella build where it does not cost you the action. 

As far as purge I don't see why someone would be more prone to purge because of this than any other enchantment stacking.