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Mage Wars => Rules Discussion => Topic started by: finring on April 24, 2013, 12:08:32 PM
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We encountered some problems from the ability of Valshalla:
Once per round, if a friendly creature is attacked and destroyed by an enemy creature, place a Wrath token on Valshalla, up to a maximum of 4 tokens. For each token on her, Valshalla gains Melee +1.
If a friendly creature is killed by either:
(1) a damage barrier (2) burn/rot to death (3) a counterattack
will Valshalla gain wraith from it?
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I can't confirm, but my guess would be-
Damage Barrier- Technically not the creature's attack (the creature's damage barrier is not him) so no.
Counter Attack- Counterstrike is a trait assigned to the creatures existing attack, so in this case, yes.
burn/rot- Is its own damage source once active, so no. Plus its disconnected from the attack itself (the attack and death must be in the same action I believe.)
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We encountered some problems from the ability of Valshalla:
Once per round, if a friendly creature is attacked and destroyed by an enemy creature, place a Wrath token on Valshalla, up to a maximum of 4 tokens. For each token on her, Valshalla gains Melee +1.
If a friendly creature is killed by either:
(1) a damage barrier (2) burn/rot to death (3) a counterattack
will Valshalla gain wraith from it?
(1) a damage barrier
Nope :(
[spoiler]Rulebook v2 pg27
If the attacker made a successful melee attack on the defender, and the defender has a damage barrier, the defender may make a “free” attack with the damage barrier at this time. A “successful” attack means that it “hit” the defender and rolled dice during the Roll Dice Step. If the attack “missed” because of a failed Daze roll, or was avoided by a Defense, then the damage barrier does not get to attack. If the attacker made multiple melee attacks, at least one must have been “successful” in order to use the damage barrier. The damage barrier attack is resolved using only Step 3: Roll Dice, and Step 4: Damage and Effects. Ranged attacks ignore this step.[/spoiler]
(2) burn/rot to death
No burn and rot are not attacks
(3) a COUNTERSTRIKE
Yes is an attack generated by the creature.
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BaronZaltor got this one right.
A Damage Barrier attack is not considered a creature attack. Its is its own source. It does not benefit from any traits on the attacking creature, and continues to function even if that creature is incapacitated.
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BaronZaltor got this one right.
A Damage Barrier attack is not considered a creature attack. Its is its own source. It does not benefit from any traits on the attacking creature, and continues to function even if that creature is incapacitated.
Always good to get your confirmation.