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Title: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Santar on January 19, 2017, 01:33:34 AM
Silverclaw Ratel (with >=1 damage)+ Battle Fury = 4 attacks for 3 dices and Piercing +1 ?!!! :o
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Silverclaw Ratel (with >=1 damage)+ Whirling Strike = 2 attacks +1 +1, because
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He additional targets work in same manner as the Sweeping trait, except there are two (2) additional targets instead of one (1) additional target. If an attack with additional strikes (such as a “Doublestrike” or “Triplestrike” attack) is made using Whirling Strike, the additional strikes will only be applied to the first target; the subsequent targets will only receive one strike each.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: jacksmack on January 19, 2017, 08:06:22 AM
Wow... battlefury is the last piece i couldnt find to this card :)))))

Dear Silverclaw - my new pet.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Coshade on January 19, 2017, 08:34:06 AM
There's a shark that can use battlefury with double strike to :)
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: iNano78 on January 19, 2017, 08:38:25 AM
There's a shark that can use battlefury with double strike to :)

Are you implying it works as per the OP's question? I thought it was ruled similar to Whirling Strike (e.g. you get one "doublestrike" attack as per the creature's native ability, then Battle Fury adds at most 1 more strike). But if so...

(http://forum.arcanewonders.com/cards/MW1C09.jpg)

6 attacks via Battle Fury?!

(I'm learning a lot about this card this morning (http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=17696.msg80406#msg80406). It's in almost every one of my Domination spell books, and yet it would appear I've been playing it wrong all this time!)
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Puddnhead on January 19, 2017, 08:49:45 AM
There's a shark that can use battlefury with double strike to :)

Are you implying it works as per the OP's question? I thought it was ruled similar to Whirling Strike (e.g. you get one "doublestrike" attack as per the creature's native ability, then Battle Fury adds at most 1 more strike). But if so...

(http://forum.arcanewonders.com/cards/MW1C09.jpg)

6 attacks via Battle Fury?!

(I'm learning a lot about this card this morning (http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=17696.msg80406#msg80406). It's in almost every one of my Domination spell books, and yet it would appear I've been playing it wrong all this time!)

The attack granted by Battlefury must be a QUICK action attack.  So, with a Hydra you would get 4 attacks, not 6.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: zot on January 19, 2017, 08:53:07 AM
no it does not work that way on the hyddra triplestrike attack since the fury specifically mentions the creature makes an extea quick attack. the triple strike is a full action attack. so the hydra would make two four dice attacks if furies.

 ah i see aome just beat me to the answer.  ninjad by puddinhead.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Puddnhead on January 19, 2017, 08:57:18 AM
no it does not work that way on the hyddra triplestrike attack since the fury specifically mentions the creature makes an extea quick attack. the triple strike is a full action attack. so the hydra would make two four dice attacks if furies.

 ah i see aome just beat me to the answer.  ninjad by puddinhead.

Just to be absolutely clear.  The First attack the creature makes can be ANY of its melee attack bars.  The Second attack MUST be a quick action attack.  Additionally, the second attack does not benefit from any Melee +X effects.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: iNano78 on January 19, 2017, 09:11:02 AM
Ah yes, missed the quick attack restriction for the second attack (but not for the first). OK, I have been using it correctly... except didn't realize the Battle Fury attack could choose a new target as well.

With [mwcard=FWQ04]Galvitar, Force Blade[/mwcard], I've done something similar to what's described for the Hydra: full action doublestrike (or Sweeping if prefered), then Battle Fury (from either my quick-cast or a Thoughtspore) into a quick attack with Piercing, then throw a [mwcard=FWQ01]Dancing Scimitar[/mwcard] for good measure. I never noticed that you could actually choose 4 different targets if you wanted to (e.g. choose "Sweeping" on the first Galvitar attack, then choose a different target for each of Battle Fury's swing and the Scimitar).
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Coshade on January 19, 2017, 09:18:28 AM
Yeah force master is nicknamed jedi mage for a reason :)
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: farkas1 on January 19, 2017, 11:29:38 AM
I have limited play with battle fury but with some of the combinations mentioned in going to be throwing it in more books.  I love how deep this game is.
And yea I remember the discussion on the double strike card and this post just reminded me I need to try that combo out.  The shark will work really well with shallow sea and sirens call.

Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: theasaris on January 19, 2017, 12:22:23 PM
So am I getting this right? Badger Frenzy and Battle Fury is also 4 attacks?!
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Santar on January 19, 2017, 01:07:41 PM
So am I getting this right? Badger Frenzy and Battle Fury is also 4 attacks?!

Badger Frenzy destroys at the and of attack, after Battle Fury, so it can work. If all this craziness is work.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Coshade on January 19, 2017, 01:27:02 PM
So am I getting this right? Badger Frenzy and Battle Fury is also 4 attacks?!

Yes  ;)

Run the TEGU
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: bigfatchef on January 19, 2017, 04:02:36 PM
Maybe it's worth putting Battle fury on a thoughtspore!
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: Santar on January 20, 2017, 01:00:26 AM
Maybe it's worth putting Battle fury on a thoughtspore!

Quick action melee attack- it will be 1 dice :\
Thoughtspore use quick actions to make spells, not usual attacks.
Title: Re: Silverclaw Ratel
Post by: bigfatchef on January 22, 2017, 08:07:06 PM
Maybe it's worth putting Battle fury on a thoughtspore!

Quick action melee attack- it will be 1 dice :\
Thoughtspore use quick actions to make spells, not usual attacks.
Lol
I mean make a battle-fury-spore not attack with it...  ;D
With badger frenzy its this 4 attacks every round.