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Title: Differences in Academy
Post by: iNano78 on June 16, 2015, 10:20:33 AM
Feel free to discuss rules and other functional differences here as they become known, but I thought I'd start off with some cosmetic differences (which may or may not be functional differences) that I noticed with the promo cards that come with Academy.

(http://www.arcanewonders.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/PROMOS.png)

Two things I noticed immediately:

(1) School given in text under the school's symbol.  This seems redundant given the symbology is well established in Arena and is still being used in Academy.  Does this text ever vary from the symbol above it? Are there other new options?  Would "Novice" be listed in this location rather than in the card text - e.g. to make it clear what the spell book point cost is by looking only in the upper-right?

(2) The Gorgon Spearthrower's "Poison Spear" attack shows a new symbol for its d12 effect that resembles a "WEAK" condition token.  While this is nice, it takes up a lot more space and probably wouldn't work on cards like Devil's Trident that can cause more than one type of (and sometimes both) condition tokens depending on the outcome of the d12 roll.  I'm also a little surprised it doesn't show the damage type of the condition in the symbol (e.g. a poison "skull & crossbones," in the case of "Weak") since that information matters with regards to creatures that are immune to the damage type associated with the condition.  Of course, this attack itself isn't a "poison damage" attack, so creatures immune to poison can still suffer damage from the attack itself, just not the condition... and perhaps putting a poison symbol on the Weak token image might have added more confusion rather than reducing it.  Still, an interesting choice to include a symbol rather than text for effect die conditions.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: V10lentray on June 16, 2015, 10:43:52 AM
These are just going to be for Academy cards.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: iNano78 on June 16, 2015, 10:46:59 AM
These are just going to be for Academy cards.

I figured that.  And that implies Academy cards won't generally have more than 1 possible condition from an effect die (and probably no more than 1 copy of a token; e.g. no double Burn or double Corrode).  But can you speak to the text + symbol for school?  Is that text just a "reminder" of what the school's symbol represents?  Or could other text like "Novice" show up in this location?
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Laddinfance on June 16, 2015, 10:55:07 AM
Currently the text under the school is just there to help players pick things up quickly. It was a way for us to help lessen the early dependence on the rulebook. I know they all seem simple, but Mage Wars has a lot of things to remember and anything we can do to help with that is a good thing.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: JasonBourneZombie on June 16, 2015, 11:55:57 AM
My group had some trouble with that early on, so it seems like a good idea to me.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Boocheck on June 16, 2015, 02:12:13 PM
I was firstly also against it but after some games with complete newbies, i must say, it helps. Also, it is a way how to distinguish academy cards from arena ones.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: V10lentray on June 16, 2015, 02:37:37 PM
I was firstly also against it but after some games with complete newbies, i must say, it helps. Also, it is a way how to distinguish academy cards from arena ones.

It's an easier way. There is still the code number on the bottom of the cards.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Bluebaron on June 16, 2015, 04:47:19 PM
By the way. There are four spoilers  on the Academy product page, if you have not noticed before. One answers the novice question.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: jhaelen on June 17, 2015, 02:54:40 AM
I'd just like to note that it makes me unhappy to see more exclusive promo cards (yeah, I'm a party pooper, I know...).
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Wildhorn on June 17, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
By the way. There are four spoilers  on the Academy product page, if you have not noticed before. One answers the novice question.

Holyshit! Didn't see them!
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Halewijn on June 17, 2015, 05:17:46 PM
So now the wizard gets his own level 1 2 creature that can do range attacks and add weak tokens?  ???

That looks like a really strong card in arena.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: iNano78 on June 17, 2015, 05:30:07 PM
So now the wizard gets his own level 1 creature that can do range attacks and add weak tokens?  ???

That looks like a really strong card in arena.

... with 7 life, 1 armor and Regenerate 1.

I was thinking something similar.  The Gorgon Spearthrower is just a promo for now, so not tournament-legal unless playing on OCTGN or somewhere else that allows promos, but yeah... sign me up for 6!
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: krj on June 17, 2015, 07:19:21 PM
what will  stagger trait do?
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: echephron on June 17, 2015, 08:26:11 PM
what will  stagger trait do?
Something awesome I'm sure


link to info: http://www.arcanewonders.com/products/mage-wars-academy
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Laddinfance on June 17, 2015, 09:42:08 PM
The Gorgon Spearthrower should be level 2. Please adjust reactions by one level.
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: DaveW on June 17, 2015, 10:11:34 PM
There is still the code number on the bottom of the cards.

Which I have no way of reading without a microscope and special lighting....
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Halewijn on June 18, 2015, 04:37:48 AM
The Gorgon Spearthrower should be level 2. Please adjust reactions by one level.

So these cards are not the final ones? level 2 seems a lot more appropriate.   8)
Title: Re: Differences in Academy
Post by: Toxziq on June 19, 2015, 10:10:27 PM
FYI - the Gorgon Spearthrower has had her image updated :)