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Title: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: rodriguekhalil on March 15, 2015, 11:29:43 AM

I saw some topics related to the subject, but none, to my knowledge, that answer that very specific question (let me know if I'm wrong please):

Can I put a face down enchantment on an illegal target? (Bear Strength on a non-living creature, Harmonize on an object without channeling, eagle wings on a mage, etc.)

From what I understand, if I reveal the enchantment and the target is illegal, then it is automatically destroyed. However, as long as it's face down, this shouldn't matter, right?

Then, I can use Shift Enchantment or Enchantment Transfusion to put it on a legal target before revealing it.

Also, related question: What if Sersiryx or Sectarus casted a non-curse spell (decoy or anything else.) I guess it would, again, be destroyed when revealed, but as long as it's face down, it doesn't matter.

Why would I do that? To play a mind game against the opponent, of course.

Thank you,

Title: Re: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: Kharhaz on March 15, 2015, 12:26:58 PM

Quote from: rodriguekhalil on March 15, 2015, 11:29:43 AM

Can I put a face down enchantment on an illegal target? (Bear Strength on a non-living creature, Harmonize on an object without channeling, eagle wings on a mage, etc.)

No.
Step 1 casting a spell requires that the target be a legal target of the hidden enchantment.

Shift and enchantment transfusion also require the recipient to be a legal target so you cannot move a hidden bear strength onto a zombie for example.

Title: Re: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: Zuberi on March 15, 2015, 05:15:31 PM

Kharhaz is correct. Purposefully casting an enchantment on an illegal target, or from an illegal source, is cheating.

Title: Re: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: rodriguekhalil on March 16, 2015, 05:10:31 AM

    Makes sense,

thanks guys.

Title: Re: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: Wouter on April 02, 2015, 02:44:51 PM

yeah, great question.
And good answer offcours.

Because I had read something about playing a card face down to bluff on your enemy.

And I was playing with the idea of putting a bear streng to play as a trap. To place it in a zone and than shift it to my creature before attacking.

But that is also incorrect than I gues

Title: Re: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: Biblofilter on April 02, 2015, 03:12:49 PM

But you could put an enchantment on a legal target, even if you could never reveal it on that target?

Like [mwcard=MW1E23]Jinx[/mwcard]

Title: Re: Face down enchantment on illegal target, is it legal?
Post by: sdougla2 on April 02, 2015, 04:13:21 PM

Yes, you can put Jinx on a creature like Iron Golem that can never cast a spell.