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Mage Wars => Spells => Topic started by: sIKE on March 05, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
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I was sure that he was, but after looking at the Rules and Code, Codex v2, the FAQ, and a Google search I am not able to find the Psychic Immunity applies to him or Fire Elemental, Whirling Spirit, and Grey Wraith.
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It absolutely should be, considering that it is a creature made of pure force (i.e. a projection of the forcemaster's will, with no mind of its own).
But it looks like it is not.
Earth Elemental is another one that ought to be psychic immune, but isn't.
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If you take a look at the Skeleton and Zombie cards, you'll see that they have both traits: nonliving AND psychic immunity.
As a consequence it seems, that psychic immunity is not automaticly included in the nonliving trait because it is mentioned separately.
The named creatures, mostly Elementals or Spirits, should therefore not have the psychic immunity.
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The named creatures, mostly Elementals or Spirits, should therefore not have the psychic immunity.
They do not have psychic immunity, that is absolutely true. Whether they should is another matter entirely.
Also, what do you mean named? None of the elementals or spirits so far have names.
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Fire Elemental, Whirling Spirit, and Grey Wraith.
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I guess he mean "stated".
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In german, you would say "named" and mean the creatures mentioned (not the ones with a name)
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Oh, I see.
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I was sure that he was, but after looking at the Rules and Code, Codex v2, the FAQ, and a Google search I am not able to find the Psychic Immunity applies to him or Fire Elemental, Whirling Spirit, and Grey Wraith.
It is because they are spirit and have a mind. So their mind can be controlled.
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Invisible stalker is not a spirit. It is just a force projection.
Grey Wraith and Whirling Spirit I can see having minds, but do elementals really have minds? I suppose it could vary between universes, and Mage Wars already has some differences from your typical fantasy universe (vampirism, for instance), so maybe this is just local canon.
But I see no justification for the invisible stalker.
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An extension of the forcemaster's mind, made to look frightening? If it's a part of her mind that's been split off then that would explain why it can be affected by psychic spells.
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Invisible stalker is not a spirit. It is just a force projection.
Says who?
AFAIK, 'Invisible Stalker' made it's first appearance in D&D. And in D&D it's a creature summoned from the Elemental Plane of Air: Invisible Stalker (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/invisibleStalker.htm)
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I assumed it was a force projection based on its "Force" subtype. I assume it is not a straight copy of a D&D monster, and that the name similarity is coincidental. But perhaps that is the explanation.
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I assumed it was a force projection based on its "Force" subtype. I assume it is not a straight copy of a D&D monster, and that the name similarity is coincidental. But perhaps that is the explanation.
^^ this, and the fact that it gets discounts with [mwcard=FWQ03]Force Ring[/mwcard] and [mwcard=FWQ07]Psi-Orb[/mwcard]... definitely feels like a projection of the mind. Unfortunately you can't "heal" it in the same way as Wall of Force (http://www.egyp.it/7513-9934-thickbox/wall-of-force-promo-card-.jpg).
The only Psychic card that interacts unintuitively/antithematic with Invisible Stalker is [mwcard=MW1E30]Pacify[/mwcard]. [mwcard=MW1I26]Sleep[/mwcard]/[mwcard=FWI05]Mass Sleep[/mwcard] can't target non-living creatures, and [mwcard=FWE08]Mind Shield[/mwcard] doesn't interact with Invisible Stalker as it isn't Psychic. That only leaves [mwcard=FWE07]Mind Control[/mwcard] and [mwcard=FWE01]Charm[/mwcard], which are both "Mind Mage only" ... so matters only in a duel between two Forcemasters (or future Mind mages) battling for control of the Stalker... which works well enough. But Pacify affecting the Invisible Stalker is weird...
And that doesn't address any of the elementals/spirits mentioned above.