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Mage Wars => Spellbook Design and Construction => Topic started by: Lord Petiso on November 27, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

Title: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: Lord Petiso on November 27, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

Here it is!

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Hammer Lord[/spellbookname]
[mage]Anvil Throne Warlord[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFA02]2 x  Hurl Rock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNA01]2 x  Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWJ02]1 x  Archer's Watchtower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ03]1 x  Barracks[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j04]1 x  Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MXSTX2FFJ02]1 x  Altar of Carnage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWW01]4 x  Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ04]1 x  Armory[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWC15]1 x  Thorg, Chief Bodyguard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC09]1 x  Iron Golem[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC07]2 x  Dwarf Panzergarde[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC14]1 x  Sir Corazin, Blademaster[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC10]1 x  Ludwig Boltstorm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC07]1 x  Grimson Deadeye, Sniper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]1 x  Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC05]2 x  Anvil Throne Crossbowman[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]2 x  Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e33]2 x  Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e21]2 x  Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWQ11]1 x  War Sledge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ02]1 x  Defense Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q04]1 x  Deflection Bracers[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ04]1 x  General's Signet Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ10]1 x  Meditation Amulet[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q13]1 x  Ivarium Longbow[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q15]1 x  Leather Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x  Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ07]1 x  Veteran's Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ05]1 x  Harshforge Plate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q11]1 x  Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ05]1 x  Helm of Command[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x  Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i12]2 x  Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i13]1 x  Group Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI04]2 x  Flank Attack[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i23]2 x  Rouse the Beast[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]3 x  Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i04]2 x  Charge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i24]2 x  Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI10]2 x  Whirling Strike[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

the idea to stop the enemy with the long distance until Anvil Throne is ready for the battle...

turn 1: (18Mana) QC: Barracks(12), Move +  Archer's Watchtower (4)
turn 2: (11Mana) Barracks (2)- No Spell, Mage:  QC: Meditation Amulet (4) + Meditate (+3) 
turn 3: (19Mana) Barracks (4) cast Anvil Throne Crossbowman (11-4= -7) Mage QC: Armony (10) + Meditation
turn 4: (14 Mana) Barracks (3) - No Spell, Mage QC: Battle Forge (8) +  + Meditation; Anvil Throne Crossbowman shot if able.
turn 5: (18 Mana) Barracks (6) - Thorg, Chief Bodyguard (17-6= -11), Battleforge (1): Battle Helm of command (3) with Rouse the Beast linked; Mage QC: activate Rouse the Beast (-4) +  + Meditation(+3); Anvil Throne Crossbowman shot/ Thorg, Chief Bodyguard move or guard.

Maybe too slow...Mana issues?

any suggestion or references to competitive warlords are welcome  ;)

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: Lord Petiso on November 27, 2014, 09:22:40 AM

Another configuration could be...

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Hammer Lord[/spellbookname]
[mage]Anvil Throne Warlord[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNA01]2 x  Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFA02]2 x  Hurl Rock[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MXSTX2FFJ02]1 x  Altar of Carnage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ02]1 x  Archer's Watchtower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ03]1 x  Barracks[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ04]1 x  Armory[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ04]1 x  Garrison Post[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWW01]4 x  Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j04]1 x  Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ03]1 x  Altar of Domination[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWC15]1 x  Thorg, Chief Bodyguard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC12]1 x  Talos[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC14]1 x  Sir Corazin, Blademaster[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC07]1 x  Grimson Deadeye, Sniper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC06]2 x  Goblin Slinger[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC04]1 x  Goblin Builder[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC05]2 x  Anvil Throne Crossbowman[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC07]2 x  Dwarf Panzergarde[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]1 x  Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]2 x  Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e33]2 x  Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e21]2 x  Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1q15]1 x  Leather Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ11]1 x  War Sledge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ07]1 x  Veteran's Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x  Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ10]1 x  Meditation Amulet[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q13]1 x  Ivarium Longbow[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q11]1 x  Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ05]1 x  Harshforge Plate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ05]1 x  Helm of Command[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ04]1 x  General's Signet Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q04]1 x  Deflection Bracers[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i24]2 x  Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI04]2 x  Flank Attack[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i23]1 x  Rouse the Beast[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]3 x  Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i04]2 x  Charge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i13]1 x  Group Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i12]2 x  Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x  Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI06]1 x  Defend[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI10]2 x  Whirling Strike[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: silverclawgrizzly on November 27, 2014, 01:43:05 PM

That first book looks pretty solid. I will say there's a certain joy to chucking Hurl Boulder at people. I'd play it a couple times and see what's working and what isn't. I go for the Reflex Boots over the bracers myself.

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: ACG on November 27, 2014, 03:11:22 PM

Quote from: Lord Petiso on November 27, 2014, 05:24:47 AM

turn 5: (18 Mana) Barracks (6) - Thorg, Chief Bodyguard (17-6= -11), Battleforge (1): Battle Helm of command (3) with Rouse the Beast linked; Mage QC: activate Rouse the Beast (-4) +  + Meditation(+3); Anvil Throne Crossbowman shot/ Thorg, Chief Bodyguard move or guard.

[mwcard=MW1I23]Rouse the Beast[/mwcard] is not a command spell, so you can't bind it to the helm. I recommend binding [mwcard=MWSTX2FFI06]Defend[/mwcard] instead; it works nicely with a strong bodyguard like Thorg.

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: Lord Petiso on November 28, 2014, 02:19:08 AM

Thanks for your answers and suggestions... finally I thik I going to test this one...

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Hammer Lord[/spellbookname]
[mage]Anvil Throne Warlord[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNA01]2 x  Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFA02]2 x  Hurl Rock[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MXSTX2FFJ02]1 x  Altar of Carnage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ02]1 x  Archer's Watchtower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ03]1 x  Barracks[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ04]1 x  Armory[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ04]1 x  Garrison Post[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWW01]4 x  Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j04]1 x  Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ03]1 x  Altar of Domination[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWC15]1 x  Thorg, Chief Bodyguard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC12]1 x  Talos[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC14]1 x  Sir Corazin, Blademaster[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC07]1 x  Grimson Deadeye, Sniper[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC06]2 x  Goblin Slinger[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC04]1 x  Goblin Builder[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC05]2 x  Anvil Throne Crossbowman[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC07]2 x  Dwarf Panzergarde[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]1 x  Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]2 x  Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e33]2 x  Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e21]2 x  Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1q15]1 x  Leather Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ11]1 x  War Sledge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ07]1 x  Veteran's Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x  Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ10]1 x  Meditation Amulet[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q13]1 x  Ivarium Longbow[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q11]1 x  Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ05]1 x  Harshforge Plate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ05]1 x  Helm of Command[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ04]1 x  General's Signet Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q04]1 x  Deflection Bracers[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i24]2 x  Seeking Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI04]2 x  Flank Attack[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i23]1 x  Rouse the Beast[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]3 x  Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i04]2 x  Charge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i13]1 x  Group Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i12]2 x  Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x  Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI06]1 x  Defend[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI10]2 x  Whirling Strike[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

Let´s see...

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: pete2 on November 28, 2014, 05:48:32 AM

let us know how this worked out ! i'm so curious to know how people manage to get talos out...i find it very difficult to have and maintain 3 outposts before getting killed...you have to spend so much mana and energy on those conjs that a moderate aggro mage can kill you while you are installing all your stuff...

i played an almost similar warlord a couple of times, and i always get beaten by more aggro mages...but that's maybe me not adapting to the situation quickly enough... :(

my idea for a next match would be t1 : construct yard + battleforge( as always) and afterwards wait and see what's the opponent's scenario...if aggro, i would aggro back, by getting armour and weapons on myself. If he's  using spawnpoint, i would immediately attack it to cut his resources !

A match report would be very cool !  ;)

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: pete2 on November 28, 2014, 05:52:09 AM

btw lord petiso, here's my present build : (not yet tested though)

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]My anvil throne warlord[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Anvil Throne Warlord Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=DNA01]2 x Acid Ball[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1A08]1 x Geyser[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFA02]1 x Hurl Rock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA04]1 x Hurl Boulder[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA03]1 x Hail of Stones[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA02]1 x Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWJ03]1 x Barracks[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J04]1 x Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ05]1 x Construction Yard[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ04]2 x Garrison Post[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWJ02]1 x Archer's Watchtower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFJ02]1 x Altar of Carnage[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFW01]2 x Wall of Earth[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]2 x Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC11]3 x Orc Butcher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC05]3 x Goblin Grunt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC01]1 x Dwarf Kriegsbiel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC07]1 x Dwarf Panzergarde[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC05]1 x Anvil Throne Crossbowman[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC14]1 x Sir Corazin, Blademaster[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1E31]1 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E16]1 x Force Hold[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E27]1 x Marked for Death[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE01]1 x Armor Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E28]1 x Mongoose Agility[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E01]1 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E05]1 x Cheetah Speed[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1Q04]1 x Deflection Bracers[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ04]1 x General's Signet Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q08]2 x Elemental Wand[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q23]1 x Regrowth Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ09]1 x Wand of Healing[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ05]1 x Harshforge Plate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ10]1 x Meditation Amulet[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q15]1 x Leather Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q06]1 x Dragonscale Hauberk[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ06]1 x Horn of Gothos[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q11]1 x Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ11]1 x War Sledge[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I12]2 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI08]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I15]2 x Knockdown[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I02]1 x Battle Fury[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPRO2]1 x Minor Heal[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I06]2 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO32]1 x Holy Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFI03]1 x Disarm[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: Lord Petiso on November 28, 2014, 09:14:06 AM

Thanks for your answer Pete2 ;-)

I promisse to report the experience with the spellbook, however I do not expect that Talos works... but by the cost just to prove it... ;-)

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: reddawn on November 28, 2014, 01:59:05 PM

Talos isn't meant to be used against aggressive builds; he's meant to be used against books that build up some. 3 Turns of waiting against a mage that is rolling 7+ dice  is a long time, so you'd be better off getting more armor, a defense, and an Iron Golem.

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: V10lentray on November 28, 2014, 02:29:33 PM

When I play a against warlord build I try to take out the Barracks as quickly as possible. Last week I played as the druid against the new warlord. On turn 4 I had destroyed the barracks and the Garrison post. and on turn 7 my Corrosive Orchid destroyed his Construction Yard. There was no chance that Talos was ever going to survive.

If I even have the slightest inkling a person is thinking about dropping a Talos I immediately shift focus on the Outposts.

Title: Re: Support for my first warlord attempt
Post by: Lord Petiso on December 01, 2014, 12:37:36 AM

This is fear to Talos? Sounds good....if you  focus un outpost you will not focus on my mage neither in the creatures but they will ficus on you...otherwise Talos will came... Both options sounds go... However i need to play It more... ;-)