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Mage Wars => Rules Discussion => Topic started by: piousflea on September 19, 2012, 12:51:55 PM
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So the text on Mage/Elemental Wand says that you can use it once per round to cast a bound spell. This seems like it should rule out casting the same spell twice in one round.
That said, can you to cast the bound spell once from the Wand (as a quickcast), and then unbind it and cast it as your normal action? (thus sending the spell to the discard pile)
Or does it take a quick action to un-bind a spell even if you aren't replacing it with anything?
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it takes a quick spell to swap out the spell in the wand. i think it always has to have a spell in it, not sure.
also when you "unbind" the spell it goes to your spellbook not your prepaired spells.
however you could cast a spell with a wand and cast the same spell as a prepaired spell.
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What a great question! And good answer Klaxus.
In order to change out spells, you must spend 3 mana and do this as a quick spell action. You do not have to replace the spell, you can just unbind it to return it to your spellbook.
The cost (3 mana), and the action (quick spell) used to unbind the spell to return it to your library is pretty steep just to get a spell back. However, you might do this if its your last Minor Heal and the other player is likely to destroy your wand! :)
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What a great question! And good answer Klaxus.
In order to change out spells, you must spend 3 mana and do this as a quick spell action. You do not have to replace the spell, you can just unbind it to return it to your spellbook.
The cost (3 mana), and the action (quick spell) used to unbind the spell to return it to your library is pretty steep just to get a spell back. However, you might do this if its your last Minor Heal and the other player is likely to destroy your wand! :)
I would say that 3 mana to get back a spell when you have a channeling of 8+ is not a bad price to save your last copy of a spell.
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Thanks for all the replies! I guess the easiest way to "double cast" would be to cast once from your wand, and have a 2nd copy of the spell prepared in your hand.
Casting dissolve/explode on wands seems to be an awfully popular move, and it is good to know that you can "unbind" a spell without having to put a new spell there.
[Edit] Oh, how about this idea? Since a wand is a one-handed equipment ("Weapon OR Shield"), could you dual-wield?
Two fireblast wands with a fireshaper ring -> pretty sweet for damage.
Two incantation wands with teleport -> teleport a friendly creature, and then teleport yourself.
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As Far as dual wielding goes I posted this a while ago. Check it out
I see the picture of a Mage Wand [spoiler]
[attachment=11]MageWand.JPG[/attachment][/spoiler]in the rulebook has the slots weapon OR shield. So I assume Elemental Wand has the same slots. Can you have a Mage Wand in one hand and an Elemental Wand in the other? ZZAP BZZZAP!
In the base set we have a few items that use the shield or weapon slot. Remember that you can have 1 item equipped to each slot. On the Elemental Wand [spoiler][attachment=12]ElementalWand.JPG[/attachment][/spoiler]it has Weapon or shield listed. Because they each can go into either slot you could dual wield them. Remember that you can never have 2 of the same card face up attached to any object in the arena including a mage. But if an item like a long bow [spoiler]
[attachment=13]IvariumLongbow.JPG[/attachment]
[/spoiler]had weapon and shield listed you could not equip any thing else to those slots.
So the short answer would be yes you can dual wield just not the same item.
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So you can or cannot dual wield two Mage Wands
I believe the answer is yes you can dual wield but not two Mage Wands because they have the same name, but I want to be clear, because two Mage wands would be very nice
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as long as they don't have the same name and don't take up the same equipment slot, then you can have two wands equipped at the same time. you could have Mage Wand and Elemental Wand both equipped at the same time (because both wands can be in either your weapon slot or your shield slot)
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as long as they don't have the same name and don't take up the same equipment slot, then you can have two wands equipped at the same time. you could have Mage Wand and Elemental Wand both equipped at the same time (because both wands can be in either your weapon slot or your shield slot)
I think your trying to collect gold stars because you just earned another one.
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Ha, no... I just think answering questions helps me feel more confident my understanding of the rules. and I don't have much else to do today.
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lol your taking my job answering all the questions first, ive been slacking (work is picking up)
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It seems to me that a mage would carry more than one wand. So why can't he dual wield?
However I see on the page 24 of the rule book that this is illegal.
Perhaps their will be an epic wand in the future which can also allow incantations?
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It seems to me that a mage would carry more than one wand. So why can't he dual wield?
However I see on the page 24 of the rule book that this is illegal.
Perhaps their will be an epic wand in the future which can also allow incantations?
Remember that So you could have a Mage Wand and an Elemental Wand or a Mage Wand and another item that uses the shield or weapon slot but you can never have 2 of the same card face up attached to any object in the arena including a mage.
I hope that helps
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So the text on Mage/Elemental Wand says that you can use it once per round to cast a bound spell.
Is this right? Isn't it possible to cast the attached spell twice?
Some piece of equipment can be used more than once a round (helm of fear, wizard's cloak,...)
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Unless it says otherwise, you can use abilities on equipment as many times as you have actions available.
The Wands specifically restrict you to once per round. We did this for game balance.
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I know I can't have two mage wands attached at once, but if I have one attached and another one in my spellbook, can I cast the second wand to replace the first in the slot it occupies?
Basically I want to swap one wand for the other.
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If you cast an equipment spell for a location that is already full, the original equipment is returned to the owner’s spellbook. So yes, although, it would be less mana to just pay the spellbind cost.(I cant think of any other reason to do this but to change the spell....Unless we get a new enchantment card that makes an equipment start to do damage to its controller....like "curse equipment" or "molten equipment". ;)
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If you cast an equipment spell for a location that is already full, the original equipment is returned to the owner’s spellbook. So yes.
Thanks for the reply. That is my interpretation too. Sometimes I just want a second opinion to see if I understand things correctly.
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If you cast an equipment spell for a location that is already full, the original equipment is returned to the owner’s spellbook. So yes, although, it would be less mana to just pay the spellbind cost.(I cant think of any other reason to do this but to change the spell....Unless we get a new enchantment card that makes an equipment start to do damage to its controller....like "curse equipment" or "molten equipment". ;)
You could have a Battleforge cast the wand, and therefore not use an extra action to switch out the bound spell.
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If you cast an equipment spell for a location that is already full, the original equipment is returned to the owner’s spellbook. So yes, although, it would be less mana to just pay the spellbind cost.(I cant think of any other reason to do this but to change the spell....Unless we get a new enchantment card that makes an equipment start to do damage to its controller....like "curse equipment" or "molten equipment". ;)
You could have a Battleforge cast the wand, and therefore not use an extra action to switch out the bound spell.
That is my intention. With harmonize on the battleforge the mana cost to the mage would be the same as changing a bound spell normally without costing the Mage one of his actions.
Edited for clarity.
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my first solo wizard equipment build worked this way.
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If you cast an equipment spell for a location that is already full, the original equipment is returned to the owner’s spellbook. So yes, although, it would be less mana to just pay the spellbind cost.(I cant think of any other reason to do this but to change the spell....Unless we get a new enchantment card that makes an equipment start to do damage to its controller....like "curse equipment" or "molten equipment". ;)
You could have a Battleforge cast the wand, and therefore not use an extra action to switch out the bound spell.
That is a good idea, I'm mad I didn't think of it!
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Sry, but only for me once again.
1. I can have 2 wands on my mage, because of shild or weapon-icon on card. But i can not have 2 wands with same names. So it is possible to have an elemental wand and a magewand, one on shild-slot and one on weapon-slot.
If i'm right with 1, then i can use only one of both binded spells per round or can i use both of them, the one binded spell from elemental wand with quickcast-action and the one binded spell from mage wand with my normal quick-action?
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1.Yes
2. If you can use your actions to cast from both wands then yes. (You couldnt use two full round spells)