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Mage Wars => Rules Discussion => Topic started by: Serial Chiller on April 04, 2013, 11:58:48 AM
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Beastmaster with a revealed Harmonize Spell, cast a seeking dispel on my Wizard with a face down Reverse Magic spell on it.
Seeking dispel says "Destroy target hidden enchantment. Controller of target enchantment cannot reveal the enchantment once Seeking Dispel has been cast."
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Reverse Magic says "When this creature is targeted by an incantation or enchantment spell controlled by an opponent, you MUST reveal Reverse Magic (for 5 mana) during the Counter Spell Step. You take control of that spell. Redirect it back to the caster, who now becomes the target of the spell. If the spell cannot target the caster, it is countered. Then, destroy Reverse Magic."
Seemed like a logic loop so what happens? Do I pay 5 and discard it because he has no face down enchantments or does it simply get countered? Or do I cancel his Harmonize?
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Welcome to the forums.
Reverse Magic doesn't work against Seeking Dispell because it targets the face down enchantment and RM works against spells targeting the creature it is attached to.
Hope this helps.
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Seeking dispel targets a enchantment, not a mage or creature, so you in fact cannot reveal Reverse Magic.
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Curse you Tacullu64!!! Nice explanation!
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:woohoo:
Seeking dispel targets a enchantment, not a mage or creature, so you in fact cannot reveal Reverse Magic.
Ha! Beat you, finally. :woohoo:
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I think worded that incorrectly, he cast Seeking Dispell on the face down Reverse Magic that was on my Mage.
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I think worded that incorrectly, he cast Seeking Dispell on the face down Reverse Magic that was on my Mage.
You worded it correctly. The key is that the Reverse Magic was protecting your mage from cards that target him and the Seeking Dispel was targeting the face down RM not your mage so it did not force you to reveal the RM. The bottom line is that the Seeking Dispel doesn't activate the Reverse Magic.
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Thank you for the welcome and the quick replies.
I understand now, it was a matter of targeting. So I believe we played it out correctly by allowing his Seeking Dispel to remove my Reverse Magic without revealing it or paying reveal cost.
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Yes you did.
Its worth saying that:
You can also chose to not pay the reveal cost of mandatory reveal enchantments at anytime negating any affect they may have.
Although that doesn't really apply to this situation. :silly:
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I beat you both BTW. Look Here
Can Jinx counter Seeking Dispel? (http://magewars.com/jsite/forum/general-questions/1408-can-jinx-counter-seeking-dispel#1510)
Seeking Dispel (http://magewars.com/jsite/forum/4-rules-discussion/1819-seeking-dispel#1906)
Dispel, seeking dispel Targeting (http://magewars.com/jsite/forum/4-rules-discussion/2236-dispel-seeking-dispel-targeting#2270)
Nulify&seeking dispel (http://magewars.com/jsite/forum/4-rules-discussion/6376-nulify-seeking-dispel#6388)
After reading these if you still have a question please ask.