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Mage Wars => General Discussion => Topic started by: Coshade on September 16, 2016, 05:26:09 PM
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Hey guys!
After a long wait I thought I would get out our first video. It's an analysis of the Paladin's ability card and his auras. More to come!
Paladin Ability Card ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsiDNZI-2m0
Siren Ability Card ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atXLPAAr0og
Attack Spells
Luminous Blast ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYo1InMRWr8
Swell ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yf8m23Gpg-Y
Tsunami ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siepbdXwodI
Creatures
Alandell the Blue Knight ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJX3oUVwibg
Alfiya, Noble Enforcer ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6fhWyJFzco
Artemis Dawnbreaker's Eye ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLgB9IiQ68A
Cassiel, Shield of Bim-Shalla ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ9GrSlqZKw
Crusader Griffin ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRkM_TDAC0A
Eligor Larington ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j20tNg3JTBk&index=61&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Light of Dawn ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1U3NRD8Lk&index=65&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Dorseus, Stallion of Westlock ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKGleK7pNS8
Noble Vanguard ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPu7YGFxIc&index=69&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Dawnberaker's Initiate ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIn10ZbAl2U
Knight of the Red Helm ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdmKiAQi2Ls&index=63&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Metatron, Angelic Templar ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7OM-TVzhdU&index=67&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Temple High Guard ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5_R7x2setQ&index=74&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Blightheart ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvSmjdmEpoQ
Turghut ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4c82NM_aFg&index=75&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Colossal Crab ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fmTQBycrA
Gerard Matranga ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6zwArVqW8w&index=62&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Kraken ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXc_P4G5l6k&index=64&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Naiyra ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dvxkGjFEEk&index=68&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Merren Harpooner ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exHW3AuSxBc&index=66&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Sherean Leviathan ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sBdnVCH5S8&index=70&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Shoalsdeep Crocodile ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXQ098egqGI&index=71&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Deptonne Bloodshaman ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUL9q_dU4MY
Deptonne Berserker ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xK4ddckcCU8
Shoalsdeep Thrasher ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKSqCFIjS7A
Drokarr ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KKMUTBIsno
Water Elemental ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVX2fhh4vv8&index=76&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Conjurations
Bed of Urchins ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vB0LbGW6KDQ
Shallow Sea ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ROPQFpY9Y
Whirlpool ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i0rfwYtWk8
Wreck of the Viridian Lace ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPVUC2UuFbk
Swamp ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieP01o3znw
Elephant Grass ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLpuPzMha64
Steep Hill ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7YRmK5eZLA
Crusade Banner ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e95HSGPZvvw
Coral Barrier ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2xrzCEvNnM
Consecrated Ground ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcVmnv4kP7M
Temple of Meraveran ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lebR-5NFDIY
Malakai's Basilica ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KdVfK_Ggc
Pillar of Righteous Flame ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh1Lr0-kO7k
Equipment
Champion's Gauntlets ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICbXvaIWEBM
Dawn's Bastion ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y293M0JkhLs
Echo of the Depths ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLkrRmVcwaQ
Ring of Ocean's Depths ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmslhlROQw
Ring of Tides ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vk_1dgdqCY
Voice of the Sea ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gUjM2WfAbU
Shoaldsdeep Trident---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVpv6Dv9zKA
Helm of Justice ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVoAHfXbeto
Signet of the Dawnbreaker ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Yb8FMXVGc
Leviathan Scale Armor ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tk6514Rdw8
Steadfast Boots ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST2kzpTaUAU
Sword of Radiance ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWMXO9MVw8A
Paladin's Cloak ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPiDf7tSFEI
Radiant Breastplate ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKMrE7Ojtw
Encahntments
Chant of Rage ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Ppexfe2Cc&index=11&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Song of Love ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33MftKH1Bdc&index=12&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Life Link ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uwaHvyYwdg&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C&index=13
Blind ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028KJkG2pVc&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C&index=14
Drown ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6d3KY4h8Hk&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C&index=15
Eye for and Eye ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292pOyo_2FI&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C&index=16
Knight's Courage ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypp5QX3sj2I
Lullaby ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KCCU5Qr_LU
Hydrothermal Vent ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcT7m8SFAQM
Healing Madrigal ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu_EPAVADvM
Ballad of Courage ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtvS2WxyjpU
Incantations
Mending Wave ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpyvHRklerM
Lesser Teleport ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP8iexzlMrA
Smite ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0-0oTQw7vw&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C&index=8
Overextend ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5U8UW_BhQ0&index=9&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
Martyr's Restoration ---> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsqhaBB0hYU&index=10&list=PLKFenfrT4VG_FOTzSR-9In-CTsyvwre9C
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Thank YOU!
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More to come soon!
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"Coshade you fool!" 8)
About the solar aura: Can you decide to pay the valor after the dice have been rolled? Or do you need to decide before rolling the dice?
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I am always a fool on these review videos. That's why editing exists 8)
On the topic of Solar Aura - You must pay the Valor before you make the attack.
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Just letting you guys know we'll start releasing 2-3 videos a day until the release!
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"Bump" ::) Also, We've completed Attacks, Incantations and Enchantments! Equipment starts soon!
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Its so nice to watch :)
Thanks guys!
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+1. I enjoy the videos a lot!
For future reviews, I'd prefer you guys to review many cards in one video instead of 1 card per video though.
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+1. I enjoy the videos a lot!
For future reviews, I'd prefer you guys to review many cards in one video instead of 1 card per video though.
I get where you're coming from. I'm the same way, I want to see all the things and then go back and watch my favorites again. That is one reason we have a playlist so that you can watch ALL the cards! (When the videos are done being uploaded)
How does everyone else feel about this? Is there a format you'd like us to try? We've got other plans for videos as well so stay tuned!
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I'd love for you guys to start promoting block formats. Pretty please?
http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=15270
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+1. I enjoy the videos a lot!
For future reviews, I'd prefer you guys to review many cards in one video instead of 1 card per video though.
I get where you're coming from. I'm the same way, I want to see all the things and then go back and watch my favorites again. That is one reason we have a playlist so that you can watch ALL the cards! (When the videos are done being uploaded)
How does everyone else feel about this? Is there a format you'd like us to try? We've got other plans for videos as well so stay tuned!
Agree with Puddnhead, perhaps a video in which you talked about all of the Siren's creatures or even a video on the synergies between the new mages and their creatures would have been nice.
While the videos on the Mages' ability cards were well done, I think that the other cards could have been released into their own separate categories for videos.
Either way, job well done guys ;D
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I enjoyed the videos a lot. But I think it's not a benefit to have to click on a new video every 2-5 minutes. I also think explaining cards in groups will automatically employ you to talk about combinations/combo's/synergy. Although you do that pretty well already! ;)
Another reason is that you see an introduction/outroduction after every card. :P After a while I hear the sentences "I'm Coshade, I'm puddinghead" without the audio. :D
But again, I'm nitpicking here! :P
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Hey glad to hear you guys like the videos so far! Just updated the list above with a bunch of released content.
Part of the reason we did individual videos was to give a conversation to each card. Another was so that if you were only interested in what a certain card's point is you could just look it up. That being said we will probably go to doing segmented videos in our next review :D
For now enjoy!
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I disagree on the crusade banner. You call it a turn 2 card, but I would for sure use it mid-game or even end game!
At the start of the game you can invest all the precious mana in different stuff like big knights/angels/.. or armor. Later on, when you have more mana to spare, but become action starved, you can cast the banner during the final quickcast and have 2 creatures ready to battle the very next round! You can still move and melee attack that round, so you don't lose crucial momentum and it costs only 5 mana! That's a crazy good deal. :D
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Keep up the great work guys! As for the crusade banner I'm liking it later and later in my games.
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Me after every zombie brute joke Puddnhead makes:
(https://i.imgflip.com/1caape.jpg)
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Hale I literally laughed out loud at that. Puddn has seriously been haunted by zombies D:
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Me after every zombie brute joke Puddnhead makes:
(https://i.imgflip.com/1caape.jpg)
Eww no way! They're too stupid and gross! :P
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LOL. Hats off to you, Sir! My hatred has become a Meme. Glad you all are enjoying the videos.
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I would prefer video covering one block of cards. Like Equipment block, Incantation block etc. In case of a bigger block (creatures), lets divided into two halves. Siren part and Paladin Part.
If you look at first video " Heeeeey I am Coshaaaade aaaand thiiiis iiiiiis Puuuudnheaaad!" and compare its opening with Temple of Meraveran :) There was a lot of introductions :)
You did a great job and i love all those analysis and little hints that would probably didnt came to my mind otherwise (casting Steadfeast Boots on other guy to keep them in place).
Looking forward to Grimoaire vids and GenCon vids :)
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I disagree on the crusade banner. You call it a turn 2 card, but I would for sure use it mid-game or even end game!
At the start of the game you can invest all the precious mana in different stuff like big knights/angels/.. or armor. Later on, when you have more mana to spare, but become action starved, you can cast the banner during the final quickcast and have 2 creatures ready to battle the very next round! You can still move and melee attack that round, so you don't lose crucial momentum and it costs only 5 mana! That's a crazy good deal. :D
This is a very good point! I suppose there are two camps for the Paladin in my head right now for Banner usage. One is to try and get a mana advantage by playing it early, and the other is to save up mana for mid engagement. Both seem to be based on playtstyle and book building to me. Also I think eventually we may see 1 aura Paladins vs 2 aura paladins for book building. In my experience getting 2 auras activated is super tough!
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I disagree on the crusade banner. You call it a turn 2 card, but I would for sure use it mid-game or even end game!
At the start of the game you can invest all the precious mana in different stuff like big knights/angels/.. or armor. Later on, when you have more mana to spare, but become action starved, you can cast the banner during the final quickcast and have 2 creatures ready to battle the very next round! You can still move and melee attack that round, so you don't lose crucial momentum and it costs only 5 mana! That's a crazy good deal. :D
This is a very good point! I suppose there are two camps for the Paladin in my head right now for Banner usage. One is to try and get a mana advantage by playing it early, and the other is to save up mana for mid engagement. Both seem to be based on playtstyle and book building to me. Also I think eventually we may see 1 aura Paladins vs 2 aura paladins for book building. In my experience getting 2 auras activated is super tough!
You mean an *action* advantage by playing it early?
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I disagree on the crusade banner. You call it a turn 2 card, but I would for sure use it mid-game or even end game!
At the start of the game you can invest all the precious mana in different stuff like big knights/angels/.. or armor. Later on, when you have more mana to spare, but become action starved, you can cast the banner during the final quickcast and have 2 creatures ready to battle the very next round! You can still move and melee attack that round, so you don't lose crucial momentum and it costs only 5 mana! That's a crazy good deal. :D
This is a very good point! I suppose there are two camps for the Paladin in my head right now for Banner usage. One is to try and get a mana advantage by playing it early, and the other is to save up mana for mid engagement. Both seem to be based on playtstyle and book building to me. Also I think eventually we may see 1 aura Paladins vs 2 aura paladins for book building. In my experience getting 2 auras activated is super tough!
You mean an *action* advantage by playing it early?
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No, he means a mana advantage. If you can keep Crusade Banner alive for 4+ turns you've gained a mana advantage in addition to an action advantage. That would be the reason to play it early. All spawnpoints give you an action advantage. Crusade Banner is unique in that it only works once, so timing its use is key for getting value out of the action you spend to cast it. If you cast it late you need to have a mana reserve that can support two creatures hitting the field on the next turn.
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No, he means a mana advantage. If you can keep Crusade Banner alive for 4+ turns you've gained a mana advantage in addition to an action advantage. That would be the reason to play it early.
One reason to play it early. Actually I prefer to sprint forward and play it in FC on Turn 1, and bring 2x Red Helm Knights out on Turn 2, but that's just me...
Yes, it can definitely be used early or late, for action advantage only, or action and mana advantage... If you are happy to play it well back (or use a Guardian Angel) then you can easily get a lot of mana advantage with it.
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First, I just want to say that I totally share the hate of zombie brutes with you, Puddnhead.
Second, If you don't want the mana but only the actions, it will usually be better to just bring a temple of asyra that will let you bring a creature every other turn (unless you just want 2 creatures on 2nd or 3rd turn). It cost only 3 more, but give you many more actions.
What's good about the banner is that it is already channeling 2, s it gives you a mana advantage.
And obviously, if you just have loads of mana and not enough actions to do anything with it (because you melee attack for full action, and bring only small spells for quickcast and your opponent often use jinx), It is a possible play to cast it on final quickcast and bring 2 creatures to just use that mana.
With melee builds (Usually with a priest or a forcemaster), I tend to stack a load of mana during midgame, when I keep attacking but only bring an enchantment or a small attack spell. Paladins are sort of builded to be made as a melee build, so having a contingency to use when they have tons of mana and not much to do with it is actually really awsome.
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There are a lot of good suggestions about Crusade Banner here. I'm digging it! It's a surprisingly flexible spawnpoint for its constraints. I'm looking forward to seeing some reports/spellbooks when everyone gets a chance to throw it in the arena!
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First, I just want to say that I totally share the hate of zombie brutes with you, Puddnhead.
Second, If you don't want the mana but only the actions, it will usually be better to just bring a temple of asyra that will let you bring a creature every other turn (unless you just want 2 creatures on 2nd or 3rd turn). It cost only 3 more, but give you many more actions.
Over the longer game, yes. If you plan on the gaming ending around turn 5-6 then you just paid a lot for unrealised potential.
Also, assuming you want a longer game with a bunch of creatures. Some books only want 2-3 creatures anyway (I presume we agree that books wanting 0-1 creatures won't be playing banner!).
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kinda off topic here...
Will you guys be reviewing the Sherean Leviathan, considering you already did the Promo Dragon ?
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kinda off topic here...
Will you guys be reviewing the Sherean Leviathan, considering you already did the Promo Dragon ?
All of the cards in the set will be up on YouTube by the end of the month--Including Alfiya and the Leviathan.
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All of the cards in the set will be up on YouTube by the end of the month--Including Alfiya and the Leviathan.
Alfiya is up!
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Would Harmonizing Crusade Banner be practical?
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Would Harmonizing Crusade Banner be practical?
I'd be very wary of it - it's just asking to be fireballed...
If you're plan is to play it in your starting zone, and protect it on turn 1-2 with a Guardian angel, then maybe... But bear in mind that Harmonize doesn't show a profit until 5 turns after it's cast - that's a long time for a one-shot disposable banner...
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Depends what you want from the Banner. If it's two big creatures mid-game like I've done with some combination of Brogan/Aurora/Victorian Griffin/Westlock then Harmonizing is a good idea. And the few games I've played...it hasn't been a target at all, but if you're worried about it being a target, Guardian Angel, Noble Vanguard (I believe this has intercept) or just add the Paladin's shield/Cloak to give yourself intercept and the ability to guard after your action.
I've actually based my Paladin build around both the Temple & Crusade Banner and it seems to not put me at a huge disadvantage.
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Just remember that you are spending 16 mana on Harmonise+Guardian Angel, on something that is supposed to generating you mana, not costing it. Now, you will get to reuse the angel later, but that's a big hit to your manaflow early on...
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I only think harmonize is good on the temple of Asyra and maybe pentagram, because they need 2 mana to spawn a creature.
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I only think harmonize is good on the temple of Asyra and maybe pentagram, because they need 2 mana to spawn a creature.
Gate to Voltari require 3 mana to cast a creature, and many mages don't cast 2 spells each turn (many meditate or attack for full action, casting only in quickcast), so it needs harmonize more than any other spawnpoint (The temple of asyra could use a cleric).
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Yes, true! My mistake.
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Cheers to the folks at Arcane Duels for putting out these review videos.
they have given me new excitement for this game, and I want to play it more.
This set looks really good for a lot of Mages. I have enjoyed your thoughts.
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I think it's a shame that the kraken does not have the uncontainable traith.
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If it did, you wouldn't be able to...
Release The Kraken! (https://youtu.be/7SqC_m3yUDU)
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If it did, you wouldn't be able to...
Release The Kraken! (https://youtu.be/7SqC_m3yUDU)
Baddum Tish!
If you'd used a Pirates of the Caribbean link I'd have recommended you for a banana!
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... I can quit any time I want.
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Alright guys I hope you enjoyed the Review for Paladin vs Siren!
I think we have all the videos released now. If I missed one in the front page let me know and I'll put it in.
For now I'm going to create a poll and would love all your input. The poll is centered around what you all think would be best for the next review video format. Here are the two ways I could see us doing the next review video
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1) We do individual videos for each card. That was how we did this review. The idea is that if you like a specific card, or perhaps have no idea why it was created, than you can check out a quick blurb and hopefully gain some inspiration.
2) We do sectioned videos for each category. A category I am defining as types of spells like Incantations, or Equipment. Each card will probably get less specific time, but will more likely contain combo card ideas. There will also be significantly less videos on the topic
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2!
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Voted.
Thanks guys. I still have few to watch but so far what i see is a lot of work behind it and i would like to say thank you. Both of you did a splendid job :)
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I think that if you cast it round 1, it can accumulate more mana and possibly pressure out turtlers.
Especially if you double spawn Westlock knights!
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I voted for individual cards because I'd prefer that over 6 distinct videos just based on the type of card, but I'd actually suggest maybe sectioning off subsets of things...for example for PvS, you could have done the holy creatures together to talk about interesting combos and swarms that would work, or a video on the Siren's enchantments to talk about her playstyle, etc.
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The thing is... the first time you wish to see all the cards then its very annoying that you get the intro 50 times.
On the other hand - its much easier to look up the cards for review when they each have their own video.
i ended up voting 2 because i forgot my frustrations on the first time view, and enjoyed looking up the cards i needed to see several times.
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Using it on the first round is also an effective strategy.
Pair it with harmonize!
R1: Crusade Banner + Harmonize. C11, R8, Ch3.
After 9 rounds, (24 mana), you can summon two Knights of Westlock for only 2 mana!
That gives you a profit of 13 mana, and that gives a good backup in case things go sour.
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Using it on the first round is also an effective strategy.
Pair it with harmonize!
R1: Crusade Banner + Harmonize. C11, R8, Ch3.
After 9 rounds, (24 mana), you can summon two Knights of Westlock for only 2 mana!
That gives you a profit of 13 mana, and that gives a good backup in case things go sour.
This is an interesting point. I am genuinely curious on your meta game. How long do your games typically go?
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I dunno that anyone would let a crusade banner sit for 9 rounds. Especially with a harmonize on it! That's begging for a fireball. I haven't got my PvS set yet but i think you want to deploy from it relatively quickly after you've cast it,unless you've got it protected somehow. It's just too fragile to let it sit.
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Most of my games take 10-14 rounds. So casting after 9 rounds is pretty bad. Activated in round 10, probably the first attack in round 11 oe 12. Chances are high that it can do only 1 attack.
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Guardian Angel, Noble Vanguard (I think), and the Paladin itself can all intercept a Fireball. If you're investing in a mid or long game Crusade Banner, you know you're going to have to protect it.
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Problem is that some cards are very general, while others are unique and provide a very interesting insight as to how unique they could be. Overall, however, it just makes it easier to make one video for creatures, one for enchantments etc...