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Mage Wars => Spells => Topic started by: Wildhorn on November 15, 2014, 10:16:55 AM

Title: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: Wildhorn on November 15, 2014, 10:16:55 AM
Does Funble only make a first attack miss or the whole attack sequence (additionnal strikes) miss?
Title: Re: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: lukard on November 15, 2014, 02:59:13 PM
That's an interesting question.... I am not sure but here is how interpret it:

The card reads "... you may reveal Fumble immediately after the Declare Attack Step. The attack misses and does not affect the target object..."

When you attack, you must follow these steps in order:
1.    Declare Attack
2.    Avoid Attack
3.    Roll Dice
4.    Damage and Effects
5.    Additional Strikes
6.    Damage Barrier
7.    Counterstrike
8.    Attack Ends

In my opinion, it would work similarly to a defense; therefore skipping to Step 5: Additional Strikes.

It makes sense to me, but I am not 100% sure still because they could simply say "The attack is avoided" instead of "misses and does not affect the target object" .

Cheers,
Lukard
Title: Re: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: Borg on November 15, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
Not sure either but assuming the same as Lukard.
Fumble stops the 1st strike but not any additional strikes.
Title: Re: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: Wildhorn on November 15, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
That's why I ask. It is not worded like Block or a Defense making it skip to Step 5, it sound like it skip the whole thing.
Title: Re: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: Enti on November 15, 2014, 08:24:37 PM
Because you can have more attacks in one attack-action (e.g. battle fury) I think only the first attack misses.

Title: Re: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: V10lentray on November 15, 2014, 09:35:27 PM
Multiple attacks such as with battle fury are quite different that multiple strikes such as triple strike with the Dark Feene hydra.

My opinion would be the entire attack would fail because even though it's multiple strikes, it's still the same attack.

But if you have a second attack such as with Battle Fury, that second attack would then happen.
Title: Re: Fumble and multiple strikes
Post by: lukard on November 16, 2014, 01:26:02 PM
Multiple attacks such as with battle fury are quite different that multiple strikes such as triple strike with the Dark Feene hydra.

My opinion would be the entire attack would fail because even though it's multiple strikes, it's still the same attack.

But if you have a second attack such as with Battle Fury, that second attack would then happen.

Hi V10lentray,

I agree with what you said about Battle Fury.

However, I still on the fence about multiple attacks.