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If AW misses this opportunity to make a mage that can ride a dinosaur then we may have a problem :P

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Mages / Re: The Wizard discussion
« on: August 10, 2015, 01:15:30 PM »
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As Kich said, small win percentages definitely add up and I can see a generation of Mage Wars players disappear into the void of a never-future if we don't either pool our knowledge on how to beat a Wizard to make the win rate more 50% or institute some buffs or nerfs.  I personally agree that going the hard route of collective knowledge and new card releases is ultimately better for the game.  Of course, I can dream about making that ultimate Wizard-death book, but I lack the experience and the time required to do so at the moment and implore the "Awesome Ones" to give us(or at least me) some trickle-down experiential knowledge so that we can start a little closer to even instead of just nebulously saying "learn to play, noob".

Knowledge collection:

Tip # 1: Kill it with fire (you had to see that one coming :P)
Tip # 2: The wizard's tower isn't all that good if it can't see you (obscured, walls, etc). Most of those will be temporary measures, but should still give enough time to lay some pain on a wizard should he choose to deal with the cloak/walls, etc instead of dealing with the Fire/animal/zombies in his face. Not saying this is a 100% strategy either, it varies match to match, but it's a good starting point.



aaaaaand I just realized I almost derailed my own thread. I'll create another one for pooling knowledge later and include the above.

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Mages / Re: The Wizard discussion
« on: August 10, 2015, 08:41:30 AM »
I guess I should have clarified in the beginning that I didn't feel the wizard needed changed either. The suggestions I had were more "just to see what happens" kind of tests instead of "fixing" the wizard. From my (admittedly dark mage heavy) experience, Wizard's Tower isn't really all that scary unless you let it be scary.

Ultimately, I figured I'd open this up for discussion since I got the impression that there were large (vocal?) groups calling for changes/nerfs to the wizard because they're so broken (a statement that I personally disagree with.)

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Events / Re: Mage Wars Wounded Warrior Tournament!!!!
« on: August 09, 2015, 02:58:13 PM »
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Also Sharkbait I taught a 14 year old the game today. He got a core set and immediately picked Warlock. I converted another to the dark side for ya buddy. Get em young, team them to eat souls early I say.

Gotta make sure they cook their meal first. Typically they should be well-done

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Mages / Re: The Wizard discussion
« on: August 09, 2015, 07:17:15 AM »
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another thing that would help: make nullify/dispel novice. All the other mages would benefit. It's really a novice spell if you just think about it for a second. EVERY mage is using it in EVERY book.

My biggest issue with this is that the game will then stagnate when everyone takes 6 of each. I'm very against making these spells novice. It goes back to the differences between mages for me. Where a wizard may take the course of dispelling, a warlock may take the brute force method and keep cursing regardless because no matter how many dispels a wizard has, a warlock has more curses. That's part of what I love about this game. Making everything a "dispel for the first 6 turns THEN start playing" kind of game is not how I want to play this game.

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Events / Re: Mage Wars Wounded Warrior Tournament!!!!
« on: August 07, 2015, 11:04:12 PM »
Now I want to go. Anyone want to buy my plane ticket? :P

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I'm glad I could be of help, and it was a fun game! Next time I'll have the pleasure of dealing with Cloak of Shadows I'm sure, haha. If I get on and play, I'll make sure to let you know!

Maybe some more fire, ideally, too.

For those interested in a discussion on wizards, see this http://forum.arcanewonders.com/index.php?topic=15868.0

I'm sure some has been discussed before, but I didn't want to lose my train of thought, nor post here and completely derail this thread.

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Mages / The Wizard discussion
« on: August 07, 2015, 01:34:01 PM »
So I was going to reply in the "Weighted Training Clothes" thread, but then I realized it's probably a derailment and would be better placed here. So, without further adieu:

Hanma said:
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Assume you don't take tournament evidence into account, just look at the cards. I think it's obvious. He has 10 channeling, great defense on stat card, an answer to incorporeal built in, at cost spell book points to all meta spells and at cost access to another school of his choice(making him the most versatile), has the best spawnpoint, 2nd best familiar, and most important a card that NO OTHER mage has...Wizard's Tower.

I see both sides to this argument, but I want to ask something before I delve more into it. Out of curiosity, what do you consider to be the best familiar?

I do agree that the wizard has some pretty nice advantages, but I would be wary of any large change to the mage. Part of what I like about Mage Wars is that not every mage has to have things that do the same as every other mage. In reference to Wizard's Tower, I think it's fine that no other mage has access to something quite like it. It brings character to the wizard, and not every mage should have the same answer (for example, I don't believe that Warlocks need a "Volcano" that could have fire attack spells attached in the same manner as the wizard's tower. They have other ways of attacking, operating, etc.) Keep in mind, I hate wizards so this isn't a favoritism thing. They are my least favorite mage in the game, but I don't believe they're too ridiculously out of line. They have somewhat of an upper-hand, but I feel like they aren't far above the rest.

I have some ideas I'd like to play test sometime (that I haven't gotten around to doing yet) to see if they work. (For those interested in helping, the ideas are: The wizard has 31 life instead of 32 (maybe even as far as 30) and make voltaric shield cost 4 instead of 2. I can explain the thought process behind those in a PM or in this thread if anyone's interested in continuing this discussion line)

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Congrats, Nick!

Seriously, It was fun playing against you and I learned quite a bit from our match. So for that, I thank you. If you're ever on OCTGN and up for a game, let me know!

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General Discussion / Re: Test your Skills... Jade Gremlin
« on: August 05, 2015, 01:41:48 PM »
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(and unavoidable but I invite a flame blast against him :D)

I'd be glad to oblige!

But that being said, this little gremlin could be fun.

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General Discussion / Re: Mage Wars Academy Expansion Spoilers
« on: July 29, 2015, 09:05:56 AM »
It looks to me like an easy to learn, hard to master kind of expansion/game/thing. The gameplay mechanics are simplified so you're fighting the turn order/arena/movement less and can concentrate on what the cards do instead. Movement around the arena and keeping track of all the phases is a pretty big part of Arena.

I can see where you're coming from, but I'm not sure it would feel like mage wars if the cards themselves were less complex. I also feel that The keywords are fairly intuitive. We'll see how it pans out, I guess. I'm actually really excited for it, but I also note that I'm not the target audience.

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Events / Re: Gen Con 2015 Casual play
« on: July 28, 2015, 10:00:12 PM »
My buddy Scott and I are throwing down in the beer garden in the evening. Time still TBD, but seems like a good place to start weather permitting

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General Discussion / Re: Mage Wars Academy Expansion Spoilers
« on: July 28, 2015, 04:35:51 PM »
Crumble is also a full action. To me, that still leaves dissolve as the go to

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Events / Re: Gen Con 2015 Casual play
« on: July 27, 2015, 06:32:03 AM »
I get in Wed at noon and will have Domination + about 4 books to play as well. Other than dinner plans, I'm open the rest of the day

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Events / Re: GENCON 2015 Tournament
« on: July 21, 2015, 01:07:48 PM »
OCTGN can be a good supplement for playing in person, but it shouldn't replace it all together. Sometimes the temporary answer is to play on OCTGN until you can grow a following in your area.

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