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Mage Wars => Spells => Topic started by: Kaarin on January 04, 2016, 12:25:56 PM

Title: Academy promos
Post by: Kaarin on January 04, 2016, 12:25:56 PM
Armorer looks great. 1 mana for +1 armor? I'll take it even if with these restrictions.
Another Silverclaw! There's also an orc cleric! So we've got Human, Angel, Dark Elf and Orc clerics. Everyone of them is interesting so I look forward for more clerics (and temples for them to pray).
There's more stuff to protect yourself from minor creatures - Miss and Cowardice.
Sanctuary makes me wonder if conjurations' attacks and spells are actions or not.

Bound healing is supposed to be Necro?
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Laddinfance on January 04, 2016, 12:29:24 PM
It's a typo. I've fixed it on the finished card. It's healing, not necro.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Sailor Vulcan on January 04, 2016, 01:03:57 PM
Where can people view these promos?
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Laddinfance on January 04, 2016, 01:07:31 PM
They're on the Dice Tower Kickstarter that just started today.

>>HERE<< (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/tomvasel/the-dice-tower-2016-season-12?ref=nav_search)
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Bluebaron on January 05, 2016, 03:05:27 AM
Can someone explain me, when it would be good to use sanctuary? I cannot think of any reason to spend 4 mana and an action for it. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Halewijn on January 05, 2016, 03:26:45 AM
Compare the card to [mwcard=MW1E02]Block[/mwcard], and let's assume you are a holy mage.

Advantages:
- no mandatory reveal
- discount with Ring of asyra
- priestess gets the holy life bonus
- it cannot be targeted again this turn by different creatures
- reduced cost for lvl 2 creatures. (Let's say your lvl 2 holy avenger)
- Can also avoid unavoidable attacks. (not entirely sure about this)

Disadvantage
- You cannot use that creature anymore this turn (nor does it hinder)
- you cannot use it on your mage. (would be way too strong)
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Bluebaron on January 05, 2016, 03:35:15 AM
This is helpful. Thank you very much. The following questions remain. When can i reveal sanctuary? When is the optimal moment for it?
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Halewijn on January 05, 2016, 04:00:54 AM
I would say the optimal moment is when targetted by a huge, high cost or life treatening attack.

Im also comparing the card to divine intervention that can be revealed when attacked. I think DI can be used for unavoidable attacks and I'm sure that they will follow the same rules about that.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Boocheck on January 05, 2016, 05:12:06 AM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/135/420/9492915e6809bd502e1410ca9ef61446_original.png?v=1451586469&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=94f814e7ac73f726d75daa7803b2fa8a)

You cannot reveal during attack or during activation, so i would probably use it on creature which need time to get stronger (Lightning raptor) or with regeneration or after my heavy hitter smash and i want him to survive for next round :)

Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Bluebaron on January 05, 2016, 05:24:09 AM
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/005/135/420/9492915e6809bd502e1410ca9ef61446_original.png?v=1451586469&w=680&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=94f814e7ac73f726d75daa7803b2fa8a)

You cannot reveal during attack or during activation, so i would probably use it on creature which need time to get stronger (Lightning raptor) or with regeneration or after my heavy hitter smash and i want him to survive for next round :)

That is exactly the reason, why i am struggling with this card. If this is the case then its use is quite situational and expensive. I would probably not spend a spellpoint for it.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Boocheck on January 05, 2016, 05:56:00 AM
Lets say i spend 12 mana on some creature (casting cost and enchantements). I attacked first and after its activation, i cast sanctuary. Now my heavy creature is safe, my oponent need to target something else.

or

Lets say, i have a creature with 1 life left. I will have initiative next round. I will sanctuary him and use him next round as a first creature.

Also, as more cards will came into academy, more cool interactions and combos will be possible :)
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Halewijn on January 05, 2016, 07:32:16 AM
Missed that non-attack part. :P

It seems rather weak now, but It would probably be too strong otherwise. :)
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Bluebaron on January 05, 2016, 07:48:20 AM
Thanks for the examples. Sounds interesting. I hope there will be some good uses for this card, which will make it worthwhile in battle. I like the idea and the picture is awesome as well.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Mrogg on January 05, 2016, 09:02:17 AM
Lets say i spend 12 mana on some creature (casting cost and enchantements). I attacked first and after its activation, i cast sanctuary. Now my heavy creature is safe, my oponent need to target something else.

I think you are mistaken. When you attack with a creature it makes it inactive. If you reveal Sanctuary afterwards you will remove an inactive creature from the board. Since Dissipate token is removed during Upkeep Phase which is after Reset Phase, on your next turn the creature you bring back will be still inactive and will not be able to attack again. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Coshade on January 05, 2016, 10:22:20 AM
I could see sending in a Brogan Bloodstone to kill a conjuration (wiz tower/deathlock), then blinking out of the arena to buy time for reinforcements (or a mage to teleport out of danger). Sancturary is a tactics card for specific situations.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Kaarin on January 05, 2016, 01:52:10 PM
Lets say i spend 12 mana on some creature (casting cost and enchantements). I attacked first and after its activation, i cast sanctuary. Now my heavy creature is safe, my oponent need to target something else.

I think you are mistaken. When you attack with a creature it makes it inactive. If you reveal Sanctuary afterwards you will remove an inactive creature from the board. Since Dissipate token is removed during Upkeep Phase which is after Reset Phase, on your next turn the creature you bring back will be still inactive and will not be able to attack again. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Currently there's no rule saying that creatures out of arena don't change their state. It was written on individual cards and there's no such statement on Sanctuary.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: ringkichard on January 05, 2016, 01:55:22 PM
Lets say i spend 12 mana on some creature (casting cost and enchantements). I attacked first and after its activation, i cast sanctuary. Now my heavy creature is safe, my oponent need to target something else.

I think you are mistaken. When you attack with a creature it makes it inactive. If you reveal Sanctuary afterwards you will remove an inactive creature from the board. Since Dissipate token is removed during Upkeep Phase which is after Reset Phase, on your next turn the creature you bring back will be still inactive and will not be able to attack again. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As far as I know, unless the card says otherwise, creatures teleported out of the arena still reset their action markers. They're not in a zone anymore, but they're still creatures with activations, damage, etc.
Title: Re: Academy promos
Post by: Kaarin on January 05, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
Lets say i spend 12 mana on some creature (casting cost and enchantements). I attacked first and after its activation, i cast sanctuary. Now my heavy creature is safe, my oponent need to target something else.

I think you are mistaken. When you attack with a creature it makes it inactive. If you reveal Sanctuary afterwards you will remove an inactive creature from the board. Since Dissipate token is removed during Upkeep Phase which is after Reset Phase, on your next turn the creature you bring back will be still inactive and will not be able to attack again. Correct me if I'm wrong.

As far as I know, unless the card says otherwise, creatures teleported out of the arena still reset their action markers. They're not in a zone anymore, but they're still creatures with activations, damage, etc.
You're right. Just compare Sanctuary with [mwcard=MW1I01]Banish[/mwcard].