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Anvil throne Honor guard
« on: April 23, 2016, 07:12:01 PM »
[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Anvil throne honor guard iteration 3[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Anvil Throne Warlord Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFA02]3 x Hurl Rock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA04]2 x Hurl Boulder[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA02]1 x Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWJ01]1 x Akiro's Hammer[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J13]1 x Mana Flower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWW01]1 x Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J04]1 x Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]2 x Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC11]2 x Orc Butcher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC05]1 x Anvil Throne Crossbowman[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC01]1 x Bridge Troll[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC07]1 x Dwarf Panzergarde[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWA01E07]1 x Gator Toughness[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E28]1 x Mongoose Agility[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE04]2 x Brace Yourself[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E31]2 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE03]1 x Healing Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE03]1 x Falcon Precision[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO64]2 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E12]1 x Divine Protection[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E21]1 x Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E13]1 x Eagle Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE02]1 x Circle of Fire[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E16]1 x Wolf Fury[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE02]1 x Divine Might[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO65]1 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1Q08]2 x Elemental Wand[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ06]1 x Horn of Gothos[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q09]1 x Enchanter's Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ03]1 x Colossus Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q23]1 x Regrowth Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ11]1 x War Sledge[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ07]1 x Veteran's Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ05]1 x Harshforge Plate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ04]1 x Reflex Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q11]1 x Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ02]1 x Defense Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q04]1 x Deflection Bracers[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I19]2 x Piercing Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI17]2 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI16]1 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI07]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]

This is my third iteration of this book the previous two only lost one time to an aggressive Druid book. I think at this point I have most bases covered but was looking for some feedback.

My opening is usually mana flower followed by battle forge. I armor myself up while summoning creatures and enchanting them. My main creature is usually a bridge troll with a few butchers or alchemists.

After some recommendations and a few games I have made iteration 4. Mostly removing some spells I never used and adding in some more arcane spells as well as Flameblast to deal with certain creatures.

[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Anvil throne honor guard iteration 4[/spellbookname]
[mage]A Anvil Throne Warlord Spellbook[/mage]
[mage]built by the OCTGN SBB[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFA02]2 x Hurl Rock[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA04]2 x Hurl Boulder[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1A06]1 x Flameblast[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWA02]1 x Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWJ01]1 x Akiro's Hammer[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J13]1 x Mana Flower[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWW01]1 x Wall of Pikes[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1J04]1 x Battle Forge[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC06]2 x Goblin Alchemist[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWC11]2 x Orc Butcher[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFC05]1 x Anvil Throne Crossbowman[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC01]1 x Bridge Troll[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKC07]1 x Dwarf Panzergarde[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFE02]1 x Akiro's Favor[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E36]1 x Rhino Hide[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E31]2 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE03]1 x Healing Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE03]1 x Falcon Precision[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWPROMO64]2 x Bear Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E32]1 x Regrowth[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01E02]1 x Arcane Ward[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E12]1 x Divine Protection[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E21]1 x Hawkeye[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E13]1 x Eagle Wings[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE02]1 x Circle of Fire[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKE02]1 x Divine Might[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1Q08]2 x Elemental Wand[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ06]1 x Horn of Gothos[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q09]1 x Enchanter's Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q23]1 x Regrowth Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNQ07]1 x Veteran's Belt[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1E29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWA01Q04]1 x Leather Chausses[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ06]1 x Morning Star[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX2FFQ05]1 x Harshforge Plate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ04]1 x Reflex Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q11]1 x Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ02]1 x Defense Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1Q04]1 x Deflection Bracers[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=MW1I19]2 x Piercing Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI17]2 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MW1I28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI16]1 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=DNI07]3 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 120 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
« Last Edit: April 25, 2016, 01:16:17 AM by pole287 »

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Re: Anvil throne Honor guard
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2016, 07:44:31 PM »
I think you might need at least one teleport. I know they are crazy expensive but quicksand, stranglevine, and even tanglevine or force hold/crush are gonna cause you a lot of trouble as well as, as you said, druids. You might want to consider a mage wand as well because those incantations are gonna stretch thin real fast. If you get stuck behind walls or you're in need of a quick retreat you may be sad. Just a thought.

Also without nullifies or arcane wards you also might end up sad as well. Again i know they are expensive, but you're completely vulnerable to repositioning, well timed wall of thorns pushes, any enchantments at all  (dot builds are going to cause ruffles) and keeping a hold on all that equipment you wanna play. Looks good aside from that though!
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Re: Anvil throne Honor guard
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2016, 07:57:14 PM »
I think you might need at least one teleport. I know they are crazy expensive but quicksand, stranglevine, and even tanglevine or force hold/crush are gonna cause you a lot of trouble as well as, as you said, druids. You might want to consider a mage wand as well because those incantations are gonna stretch thin real fast. If you get stuck behind walls or you're in need of a quick retreat you may be sad. Just a thought.

Also without nullifies or arcane wards you also might end up sad as well. Again i know they are expensive, but you're completely vulnerable to repositioning, well timed wall of thorns pushes, any enchantments at all  (dot builds are going to cause ruffles) and keeping a hold on all that equipment you wanna play. Looks good aside from that though!

What about helm of command?
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Re: Anvil throne Honor guard
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2016, 07:59:44 PM »
I agree I do want all of that but putting 1 copy of each of those would cost me 16 spell book points and I cannot see where I would pull those points out of the book.

I do have 3 dispels and eagleclaw boots which helps with both the enchants as well as pushes. I tend to have armor to make pushing through wall of thorns do nearly no damage especially when I have the Vet belt on.

Also I have actually yet to use any command spells except the ones on the warlords card.

If you have an idea on what to drop to try to fit some of those things in I would happily take some advice there. Arcane is always the bane of the warlord.

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Re: Anvil throne Honor guard
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2016, 11:26:26 AM »
Ok. Well i know you wanna run equipment to counter the opponents strategy, but let's take a look here and see what is actually happening. You are running 3 different belts, 2 different pair of boots, 2 different pair of gloves, and aside from harshforge plate you've got no way to protect them. I see the utility in your choices but if you commit to one strategy (like warlords kinda have to) a good third of your equipment becomes useless. That's a lot of book points. I might swap the regrowth belt for a regrowth, and if you wanna armor up i don't really think you need the colossus belt. I would probably double up the vet belt if you really don't wanna run protections because that gets dissolved cheaply even with harshforge. As far as freeing points i don't know what kind of luck you've had with the war sledge but i think you can do without it, especially if you want to be using those wands your packing. I dunno if you need both poison bloods you could probably do with just one if you time it right , and i think wolf fury is a bit unneeded for this book. Divine might can probably get pulled as you have a force hammer and a wand if needed for ethereal. I see what you wanna do with the circle of fire but it might be a bit resource heavy for this one, do you use it often?
Im seeing you don't want do be huge into the undoing game but 1 dissolve is likely not going to be enough. And without decoy, arcane ward, wall of thorns/ force push, an arcane warded force field is practically indestructible for you. So is a ghoul rot or force crush. DOT builds aren't going to care how much armor you have and if you get teleported away from your battle forge early (like i am likely to do lol) your looking at hard casting all that equipment. One teleport can at least get you to relative safety back by the forge. None of your creatures are mage only or school only creatures so mind control is going to make this warlord very unhappy. You can probably pull the deflection bracers and count on the reflex boots for your dodging, looks like you wanna punch stuff anyway with those melee gauntlets.  Divine protection is ok, but with all the armor your running i dint know that you need it unless it's part of the plan.

Just a few observations that might help streamline the book. I honestly think you need at least one teleport for the meta right now, and a mage wand would help a lot. You can get at least 12 points by following some of the suggestions above if you want to try it out, otherwise I'm excited to face this warlord in the arena!  I hope i could help!
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Re: Anvil throne Honor guard
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2016, 01:17:07 AM »
Alright I edited the book a bit after some games and after your recommendations.

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Re: Anvil throne Honor guard
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2016, 09:32:24 AM »
The addition of (one) Teleport is certainly an improvement.  Before the revision, my first thought was "What do you do when you get Tanglevined outside the range of your Battle Forge, and then the opposing mage Surging Wave's your only Forge out of existence?  Just pack up and say "Good game"?

Still... many eggs are invested in that lone Forge.  I'd probably consider dropping a creature or two for a second Forge, since it's so integral to your primary strategy.  You could also save a point by exchanging the Regrowth Belt for a second Veteran's Belt, and I'd certainly drop at least one of your excess boots/gloves for a Dancing Scimitar because it's just so much more flexible than either the Bracers or the Reflex Boots.

P.S.  Nullify isn't an Equipment.
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