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Mage Wars => Rules Discussion => Topic started by: adanaz on January 08, 2018, 10:29:57 AM
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Hey guys,
I guard with the Kraken. The Kraken is melee attacked. Where is my quick action melee attack to use as a Counterstrike? Is it my mistake to guard with a creature that lacks a quick action melee attack and expect a Counterstrike?
I didn't find it written anywhere that a creature who lacks a quick action melee attack does not get to Counterstrike when guarding. Although I did find that 'Ranged attacks skip this step' and 'You may not make a full action melee attack or a ranged attack with Counterstrike.'
I think it was an oversight on my part (hangs head and sobs softly).
Thanks!
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Full action only attacks cannot be used to counterstrike. Only quick action attacks.
The only benefit you get is to have a big guard that can take a hit instead of the attack hitting your mage.
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Not a mistake, but Kraken is definitely a creature you might prefer to attack with than to guard with.
I find [mwcard=DNC18]Togorah, Forest Sentinel[/mwcard] difficult to play partly for the same reason. He has Vigilance/Intercept, which makes you assume he must be a terrific guard... but doesn't get to counterstrike. At least the Vigilance allows him to attack and get a guard marker in the same round, but it still feels hollow when your guard doesn't get to counterstrike.
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I guess a 6 dice attack is a bit much for a counterstrike. In a large number of cases, it would be a stronger attack than that of the aggressor!
Thanks for the replies!
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Earth Elemental also comes to mind....
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The jelly! Corrosive attack that reconstructs and devours
can can't make a counterstike :(
I understand why, but he is on that list too
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The jelly! Corrosive attack that reconstructs and devours can't make a counterstike :(
I understand why, but he is on that list too
fixed :)
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The jelly! Corrosive attack that reconstructs and devours can't make a counterstike :(
I understand why, but he is on that list too
fixed :)
Thanks! :)
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Full action only attacks cannot be used to counterstrike. Only quick action attacks.
The only benefit you get is to have a big guard that can take a hit instead of the attack hitting your mage.
I don't have the rules in front of me, but I believe placing a guard only provides the Counterstrike trait to a Quick Melee Attack of that Creature. So the Kraken would still Protect the Zone, but would not receive a Counterstrike when placed on Guard.
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Full action only attacks cannot be used to counterstrike. Only quick action attacks.
The only benefit you get is to have a big guard that can take a hit instead of the attack hitting your mage.
I don't have the rules in front of me, but I believe placing a guard only provides the Counterstrike trait to a Quick Melee Attack of that Creature. So the Kraken would still Protect the Zone, but would not receive a Counterstrike when placed on Guard.
Yeah, he can guard but not hit back so he can be used as a guard to soak up hits