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Mage Wars => Spellbook Design and Construction => Topic started by: Dr.Cornelius on March 09, 2014, 11:05:13 PM
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Just getting started with the game and with Forcemaster, but have done a lot of reading on the forums.
The prevalent Forcemaster strategies appear to include 1-2 elite creatures, typically some combination of Grizzly, Vampiress or Brogan.
Has anyone considered running Gorgon Archer instead? In general, the Gorgon will encourage the enemy to close which is just what the FM wants. FM also has plenty of low cost force pushes available to get the slow Gorgon in position to make its full round weakening attack.
Also looking for suggestions on dealing with difficult matchups - for example, Iron Golem. At this point, the book has only a few counters for the Golem: Teleport, Force Hold, Block.
Looking for cards to round out the Spellbook.
-Dr.C
[spellbook]
[spellbookheader]
[spellbookname]Forcemaster Gorgon[/spellbookname]
[mage]Forcemaster[/mage]
[/spellbookheader]
[spells]
[spellclass]Attack[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWA02]1 x Force Hammer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Conjuration[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1j08]1 x Hand of Bim-Shalla[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j16]1 x Mordok's Obelisk (counter swarm, synergy with Mind Control) [/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1j21]1 x Suppression Orb (counter swarm, needed in addition to Obelisk?) [/mwcard]
[spellclass]Creature[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1c18]1 x Gorgon Archer[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Enchantment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1e01]1 x Bear Strength (limited card pool, otherwise would be 2)[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e28]1 x Mongoose Agility[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE03]1 x Falcon Precision[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e16]2 x Force Hold[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e33]1 x Retaliate[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e34]2 x Reverse Attack (limited card pool)[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e02]1 x Block[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE07]2 x Mind Control[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e31]1 x Poisoned Blood[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE01]1 x Charm[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e29]1 x Nullify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1e10]1 x Decoy[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWE05]1 x Forcefield[/mwcard]
[spellclass]Equipment[/spellclass]
[mwcard=FWQ04]1 x Galvitar, Force Blade[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q06]1 x Dragonscale Hauberk[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ10]1 x Storm Drake Hide (backup / meta vs lightning) [/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ01]1 x Dancing Scimitar[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWQ03]1 x Force Ring[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1q11]1 x Gauntlets of Strength[/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ03]1 x Colossus Belt (meta vs status effects) [/mwcard]
[mwcard=MWSTX1CKQ06]1 x Eagleclaw Boots [/mwcard]
[spellclass]Incantation[/spellclass]
[mwcard=mw1i02]1 x Battle Fury (who doesn't wish they had more of these...)[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i19]1 x Piercing Strike[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i28]1 x Teleport[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i15]1 x Knockdown[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI09]1 x Steal Equipment (surprised to not see this in more lists) [/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i07]2 x Dissolve[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i06]2 x Dispel[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i12]2 x Force Push[/mwcard]
[mwcard=mw1i20]1 x Purify[/mwcard]
[mwcard=FWI06]2 x Power Strike (don't see in many lists, good in an Aggro build?)[/mwcard]
[/spells]
[cost]Total cost: 103 pts[/cost]
[/spellbook]
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Drop at least 1 mind control. Add Eagle wings for the Archer. That'll also open up space for your second bear strength.
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Take out Battlefury.
5 mana for a 3 dice attacks is senseless.
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Take out Battlefury.
5 mana for a 3 dice attacks is senseless.
It is for the Forcemaster with a Galvitar, so 4 dice Piercing +2.
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Take out Battlefury.
5 mana for a 3 dice attacks is senseless.
It is for the Forcemaster with a Galvitar, so 4 dice Piercing +2.
Yes of course.
Probaly worth it then :)
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I think you'd get more mileage out of retaliate, though. It's still 2 build points for a quick attack, but retaliate will let you leverage your bear strength and gauntlets.
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Thanks for the suggestions. Will swap Battle Fury for Retaliate.
Any recommendations on dealing with Iron Golems, or increasing the spellbook's synergy with the Gorgon Archer?
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how is the obelisk synergy with mind control? this means you pay more mana to control their creature, since you pay mind controls upkeep and gain control of a creature with +1 upkeep?
Also I thought you couldn't force hold a golem, being that force hold is a psychic spell, and it has psychic immunity, since it's non-living.
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Also I thought you couldn't force hold a golem, being that force hold is a psychic spell, and it has psychic immunity, since it's non-living.
Its subtype is Force not Psychic....
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ahh thanks sIKE for clearing that up, not in front of the rule book, and I'm a bit of friendly weekend player, so I lack alot of the tournament ideas you guys can achieve for decks and strategy and the pure knowledge base of all aspects of the rules. Was I right about the first half that you didn't quote? When I was complete noob I thought force hold gave the creature +3 upkeep but it's the enchantment I believe, there's the other enchantment, maybe essence drain that gives the creature itself a +2 upkeep can't recall atm, as I'm not looking at the cards to be 100% certain.
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Look at the Latest FAQ it has a section on the interaction of these two.....
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how is the obelisk synergy with mind control? this means you pay more mana to control their creature, since you pay mind controls upkeep and gain control of a creature with +1 upkeep?
During the Upkeep phase, you pay the upkeep on Mind Control, then refuse to pay the upkeep from Obelisk, so the creature is destroyed.
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ah thanks for clarifying that, I had pm'd sIKE because I couln't locate in FAQ, and didn't want to get thread off topic with my lack of knowledge on common rules/strategies etc.
Much appreciated guys!
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So...what is the game plan when the Archer is eliminated?
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ah thanks for clarifying that, I had pm'd sIKE because I couln't locate in FAQ, and didn't want to get thread off topic with my lack of knowledge on common rules/strategies etc.
Much appreciated guys!
You're looking for the rules and codex supplement. You can find it on this >>page<< (http://www.arcanewonders.com/resources-and-downloads).
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Gorgon Archer is slow right? That is the one big drawback I found with it. I have had great success using sir corzan the blade master in my Force Master book.